how to penalize other users in TM and list according to actuality in translation results list
Thread poster: Ömer Maraş
Ömer Maraş
Ömer Maraş
Türkiye
Local time: 19:56
English to Turkish
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Oct 29

Hi folks

I've tried 2 things in memoq and couldn't do it. Do you know how the following can be done?

1 - I want to penalize any users in the TM and also corpus except myself, so their hits show under mine in the translation results list.

I tried to change the default settings under Options > Default resources > TM Settings: Clone "Default" setting, then edit it. Adding a user under General - User penalties penalizes that user, so I tried (under Filters) to
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Hi folks

I've tried 2 things in memoq and couldn't do it. Do you know how the following can be done?

1 - I want to penalize any users in the TM and also corpus except myself, so their hits show under mine in the translation results list.

I tried to change the default settings under Options > Default resources > TM Settings: Clone "Default" setting, then edit it. Adding a user under General - User penalties penalizes that user, so I tried (under Filters) to add a penalty of "Created by is none of (myself)" and "Modified by is none of (myself)", but it didn't work out..

2 - I want the translation result list to prefer newer hits, but it doesn't work out.
I translate a sentence, the next with only 1 small word change doesn't appear in the results list, but other (actually lesser) hits show instead..

How can I do this??

Thanks in advance!

Omer
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Felix Sherrington-Kendall
Felix Sherrington-Kendall  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 17:56
German to English
TM penalties Oct 29

Hey,

The way you set things up with filters should indeed work. You can use either strict filters to completely ignore the hits, or soft filters to set a percentage penalty. Just to check, are you then also applying these TM settings in your project?

As for the hits, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you have multiple hits for a segment, they are sorted by match rate first and foremost, then by other criteria such as master/working/reference TM, and finally by
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Hey,

The way you set things up with filters should indeed work. You can use either strict filters to completely ignore the hits, or soft filters to set a percentage penalty. Just to check, are you then also applying these TM settings in your project?

As for the hits, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you have multiple hits for a segment, they are sorted by match rate first and foremost, then by other criteria such as master/working/reference TM, and finally by date (where the newer result will take preference). Could you maybe provide a simple example of what you mean/what you want to achieve?
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Ömer Maraş
Ömer Maraş
Türkiye
Local time: 19:56
English to Turkish
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TOPIC STARTER
not working.. Oct 29

Thanks for the quick response, but no, the filters did not work (and yes, I applied them to my project as well).

To give an example, I'm using your sentence:

I translate "The way you set things up with filters should indeed work.", then the next sentence is, say, "The way you set things up with filters should POSSIBLY work." and expect the first sentence to show up in the first place as a 90%-95% hit, but no, in my translation results window (of a single big momma TM se
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Thanks for the quick response, but no, the filters did not work (and yes, I applied them to my project as well).

To give an example, I'm using your sentence:

I translate "The way you set things up with filters should indeed work.", then the next sentence is, say, "The way you set things up with filters should POSSIBLY work." and expect the first sentence to show up in the first place as a 90%-95% hit, but no, in my translation results window (of a single big momma TM set as both masdter and working TM) I get a list of many decades old hits of 94% or lower match values, but not my own, just added segment.. When I make a concordance search, the very sentence shows up top front, but not during translation. So, to come back to our example sentence, I get sentences like "The way you set things up with animals and plants should indeed work." or "The way you get things wrong should indeed work from time to time." show with higher match value....
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Felix Sherrington-Kendall
Felix Sherrington-Kendall  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 17:56
German to English
Strange... Oct 30

Hmm... and presumably the segments in your TMs are all saved by your user? Do you have any non-ASCII characters in your username (not even sure if that's permissible, just a thought)? Which version of memoQ are you using?

As for the TM results, just to take your example sentence literally, I get an 80% hit from the TM for that, rather than something in the 90s. Could it be the case that the match rates are simply lower than you would expect them to be? Perhaps try creating a new TM
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Hmm... and presumably the segments in your TMs are all saved by your user? Do you have any non-ASCII characters in your username (not even sure if that's permissible, just a thought)? Which version of memoQ are you using?

As for the TM results, just to take your example sentence literally, I get an 80% hit from the TM for that, rather than something in the 90s. Could it be the case that the match rates are simply lower than you would expect them to be? Perhaps try creating a new TM and only inserting the two translations so you can see the match rates side by side.
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Yossi Rozenman
Yossi Rozenman  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 17:56
Member (2006)
English to Hebrew
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Could you make a screenshot of the filter Oct 30

Could you make a screenshot of the filter, so we can see how exactly you set it up.

 
Ömer Maraş
Ömer Maraş
Türkiye
Local time: 19:56
English to Turkish
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TOPIC STARTER
filter screenshot Oct 31

never tried adding images here.. let me try it..
[img]https://ibb.co/gDXgzch[/img]


 


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