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Too many (CAPTCHA) tests to check for whether I'm genuine. Is there something else going on?
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I'm getting sick and tired of having to fill in dozens of times those tests when I log in to see whether I'm genuine. Is that really only a way to make sure robots don't log in, or is there something else going on and are they using me as a cheap way to check the contents of those pictures?

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I am not a robot Nov 9, 2023

Yes- they're very annoying. How many motorcycles can you see in this picture? Etc etc. Every bloody time.

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@Peter Nov 9, 2023

I agree with you, but on the other side it’s reassuring to know that, after all, AI lacks “intelligence” to figure out those silly tests…

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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:
I agree with you, but on the other side it’s reassuring to know that, after all, AI lacks “intelligence” to figure out those silly tests…


There is more to it than that. It's a way of AI training, as I heard saying some IT specialist on the radio a while ago. I suppose he is right. It sometimes takes me minutes to complete those tests, which is completely unnecessary if it would only be a security measurement. So I'm afraid 'reassuring' is not the right word here.


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CAPTCHA Nov 9, 2023

= Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart.

It's all explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

I know they're a nuisance but they protect you from bad things.

[Edited at 2023-11-09 10:36 GMT]


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Google Nov 9, 2023

At least Google is very likely using it to train AI. You can... Google it.

 
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Lieven Malaise wrote:

At least Google is very likely using it to train AI. You can... Google it.


Now that you mention this, I've found that the number of Captchas increases if you're using Google as the default search engine and if you're using a VPN.
Altenatives like Firefox + other search engine (or maybe Brave?) seems to get me playing less with puzzles lately. Then that may be true for a while and then it'll change again...


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Philippe Locquet wrote:
I've found that the number of Captchas increases if you're using Google as the default search engine and if you're using a VPN.


Google is my default search engine, but I don't use a VPN.


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20 times Nov 11, 2023

20 times! AT LEAST 20 times I had to do that stupid catcha, not to mention all those blurry photo's on which it becomes increasingly difficult to recognize simething.
Is this a way of Proz.com to block people instead of spambots?
Or does the system simply does not work? Like lots of IT ideas, by the way. IT always thinks they can create the ideal world. And they never do.


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I don’t have to do them… Nov 11, 2023

Peter Motte wrote:

I'm getting sick and tired of having to fill in dozens of times those tests when I log in to see whether I'm genuine.

I don’t have to do them. I always go straight into the site. I wonder why that is? What is different about our setup? Are you in “private browsing” or something?


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No, they don't. Nov 12, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

= Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart.

It's all explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

I know they're a nuisance but they protect you from bad things.

[Edited at 2023-11-09 10:36 GMT]


CAPTCHAs won't "protect" you from nothing. From the user's point of view, they are nothing more than a nuisance of the first order - a right pain in the neck.

CAPTCHAs are meant to protect the website. Only small problem is, the algorithm deciding whether to throw a CAPTCHA at users is more often than not very far from being perfect. End result: a "website security" that keeps harassing legitimate users. That usually does marvels for brick and mortar businesses ...


 
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Christopher Schröder wrote:
I don’t have to do them. I always go straight into the site. I wonder why that is? What is different about our setup? Are you in “private browsing” or something?


I suppose you don't erase your browsing history systematically ? Then it is normal that you don't have to do that every time. But if you erase that history every single day (like I do), you will have to pass that test every next morning.


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No, I don’t Nov 12, 2023

Lieven Malaise wrote:

Christopher Schröder wrote:
I don’t have to do them. I always go straight into the site. I wonder why that is? What is different about our setup? Are you in “private browsing” or something?


I suppose you don't erase your browsing history systematically ? Then it is normal that you don't have to do that every time. But if you erase that history every single day (like I do), you will have to pass that test every next morning.

Why would you do that?


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Google supposedly uses it for training self-driving cars Nov 14, 2023

Some time ago I read Google uses these for training self-driving cars.

This makes sense, seeing the pictures used in these CAPTHAs.
See also: https://mobility21.cmu.edu/do-you-know-you-are-training-google-self-driving-cars-so-they-dont-kill-people-yes-by-solving-captcha/


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If you haven't seen a motorcycle CAPTCHA in Google search, I doubt that you are a proper translator Nov 15, 2023

If the question about CAPTCHA tests relates to proz, then well, I've never had to take one. However, the huge number of weird queries I have to enter into Google's search box to get my work done sometimes makes Google question the fact that I'm a human being, even to the point where I have to identify all pictures showing a motorcyclist where the only thing appearing on the screen is a cemetery (and zero motorcycles). My understanding is that Google searches are all about making me buy things, s... See more
If the question about CAPTCHA tests relates to proz, then well, I've never had to take one. However, the huge number of weird queries I have to enter into Google's search box to get my work done sometimes makes Google question the fact that I'm a human being, even to the point where I have to identify all pictures showing a motorcyclist where the only thing appearing on the screen is a cemetery (and zero motorcycles). My understanding is that Google searches are all about making me buy things, so my thousands of searches from which Don't-Be-Evil can't figure out what I want to buy must surely piss them off

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