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"Matthew took stock of another shelf that held a variety of clockfaces in both metal and wood. "How many of them have you made?"
"My clocks? Twelve. Working on my thirteenth. I make three or four a year, depending on the complexity of what the client wants."
"What is that ?" Matthew pointed to the half wagon wheel with the bat wings.
"Part of the inner workings of my thirteenth. I don't believe in bad luck-unlucky thirteen and all that-but with my client's permission I'm making a clock that will um flap its wings like a bat upon every hour. What you see diagrammed there are the rods that the hammers will hit to cause the wings to flap. I'm thinking of creating the entire thing out of black cloth draped around a wooden frame. With a black clockface and possibly red enamel numerals. My client, fortunately, is very open to my designs and already owns two of my creations."
4 +3 | regardless | Tomasso |
4 +5 | however... | Yvonne Gallagher |
4 | but | Kiet Bach |
Non-PRO (1): Tony M
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regardless
It is my 13th clock BUT REGARDLESS, BAD LUCK OR NO BAD LUCK,
anyway, and what more, whatever I am going to make a 13th clock.
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в любом случае There is no such thing as bad luck but, regardless....
But you know i found my self making the 13th clock anyway.
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David Hollywood
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philgoddard
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Nayla Nicole Arpigiani Ganora
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however...
HOWEVER, now he is working on his 13th clock and not an ordinary clock but one that has bat wings flapping every hour, draped in black and with red numerals
Bats are considered to bring bad luck in a lot of places and of course they are associated with the black/darkness of night and vampires drawing blood, hence the referenced black cloth and red of the numerals
He doesn't actually say that his client is superstitious or wary about this being such a strange clock for the 13th one. No, the client is supportive, and trusts him to design away.
However/but, it seems he may not be so sure after all he is doing the right thing and is possibly asking for trouble by making such a design on this 13th ("unlucky" number) clock. Perhaps he is asking for bad luck to fall upon them both?
So, I think the but/however is basically him saying "I'm not superstitious BUT maybe I'm taking too much of a chance?"
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Oleg Muzhdabaev
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Thanks:-)
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Jennifer Levey
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David Hollywood
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Tina Vonhof (X)
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Thanks Tina:-)
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Anastasia Kalantzi
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but
He implied that most people, and probably his clients as well, believed in bad luck.
Discussion
You ask why not "and"? A pertinent question.
Tony has substituted "so" which is similar to "and" here and makes the 2 parts of the sentence run into each other with no "but/however" aspect. Nevertheless, there is a doubt raised of some sort by using "but". Does the client know that this is the 13th clock and gave permission anyway to do one with (bad luck) bats? Or did he have to persuade the client to give permission for this design? Or is he having doubts himself?
I think if you can use the equivalent of "however" in Russian, keeping it as close as possible to ST, it will retain this doubt or ambiguity.
The only element of 'but' about it is perhaps that his customer (who for all we know might be superstitious!) doesn't mind having the thirteenth clock.
restatement.....I do not beleive in bad luck, AND IT HAPPENS, IT IS OF INTEREST THAT, IT JUST SO HAPPENS, (adding enphasis, use of the word but is basically the same as AND, except he is making a point, is adding emphsis to the fact that IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE, the 13th clock he is making, i would consider it a not being perfect usuage of Enlgish, but many people when talking quickley do not use words precisely, and that is O K .
only a suggestion....https://www.linguee.com/russian-english/translation/несмотря...
несмотря none the less, despite the fact, not withstanding, regardless of being not beleiving in bad luck,
I am not superstitious, but , but regardless of whether there is such a thing as bad luck слово имеет много значений, может означать только, и, за исключением ,, несмотря на факт (извините, если я написал слишком много?)