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المعهد المصري لتطوير الإدارة والأعمال
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Glossary entry

Arabic term or phrase:

نضال مطلبى

English translation:

struggle for demands

Added to glossary by Sam Berner
Apr 15, 2006 12:04
18 yrs ago
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Arabic term

نضال مطلبى

Arabic to English Social Sciences Government / Politics trade unions, ILO, FTA
مدونة السلوك توفر نضال مطلبى يسمح ويساعد على تحسين شروط العمل وحماية حقوق العمال.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +5 struggle for demands
3 objective-oriented struggle

Discussion

Sam Berner (asker) Apr 16, 2006:
Eureka!
Ala Rabie Apr 16, 2006:
The Code is the fruit of the struggle for demands [even the struggle for the Code itself as it represents Workers' rights.] -- Therefore, the Code becomes a symbol/sign for the 'Struggle for Demands'.
Ala Rabie Apr 16, 2006:
sam, please bear up with me.
1. Workers were demanding the code. 2. the is created. 3. when describing this code, it is said that Workers demanded it, Wrokers struggled for it. and it's finally there. "the code resembles a struggle for demands."
Sam Berner (asker) Apr 16, 2006:
The code is there already. It is a code used by the employer, here a multinational company and signed by that company and the Federation of Trade Unions. Does it make the context a bit clearer? The code stipulates compliance with basic international worker rights in Egypt.
Ala Rabie Apr 16, 2006:
*typos: in short: (1) people are demanding the Code, which in itself [the demand for Code] is a struggle for demands. or, (2) the Code provides the enlightment of demands that one should struggle to achieve for real.
Ala Rabie Apr 16, 2006:
in short: (1) people are demanding the Code, which itself is a struggle for demands. or, (2) the Code provides the enlightment of demands that one should struggle for achieving them for real.
Ala Rabie Apr 16, 2006:
so that people must go and get it. -- however, you may also think of it this way: the time these lines were being written, the code was not available yet. so, 'Go fight for the Code, comerades!' [i believe this is the right context]
Ala Rabie Apr 16, 2006:
what i understand, sam, is, the code is written in a way that enlighten everyone of (1) his/her rights (2) their importance (3) the sacred task of defending them (4) the reason to demand them if not present.
Sam Berner (asker) Apr 16, 2006:
a tool for? So could I say, Senor Semiologist, that it "provides a tool for a struggle for demands"? My client wants me to tell him what it means, not what it says, if you see my point.
Ala Rabie Apr 16, 2006:
revolutionary enough that it represents a document that inspires the objectives/enlightment/metanarratives for struggling for one's demands and rights, sam :)
Sam Berner (asker) Apr 16, 2006:
Doesn't make sense How can a Code of Conduct provide a struggle for demands?? Sorry, maybe I just didn't have enough coffee.

Proposed translations

+5
28 mins
Selected

struggle for demands

"(...)suggests a struggle for demands that provides and helps(...)"

This one sounds good even to me (h):
"(...)provides a struggle for demands that faciliates(...)"

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Note added at 29 mins (2006-04-15 12:34:43 GMT)
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or:
"Strife for demands" (Thank you, Fuad)
Peer comment(s):
agree Abdelmonem Samir : Also, on the same line, you have "struggle for rights" نضال حقوقي
15 mins
true. like we're doing with the really low-rates circulating recently :( - merci, samir!
agree atef Sharia
4 hrs
merci, atef :)
agree Dikran
8 hrs
merci, dikran :)
agree Nashwa Abdullah
3 days 2 hrs
merci, nashwa :)
agree radwa abdel ghany
31 days
merci, radwa :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for all the explanation. You are FANTASTIC :-)"
7 hrs

objective-oriented struggle

Good-luck
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