Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Keep your belongings on view or in view

English answer:

In view

Added to glossary by IngePreiss
Jun 10 10:42
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English term

Keep your belongings on view or in view

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I found both in the same text and am somewhat confused, whether both are possible.

Thanks a a lot

Kindest regards

Inge.
Change log

Jun 10, 2024 11:49: Jennifer Levey changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Barbara Carrara, AllegroTrans, Jennifer Levey

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Discussion

Anna Wright Jun 20:
"on view" = visible, on diplay, available to view To put or leave something on view means to make it available to be viewed, which would make sense for an exhibit on display at an auction, or personal belongings left on a car seat or parcel shelf.

To have something in view, on the other hand, relates to having or keeping something in one's sights, i.e. having an idea or aim in mind, e.g. the seller might have a particular sale price in mind. A passing thief might have his/her mind set on stealing someone's laptop/belongings.
AllegroTrans Jun 10:
@ Daryo You have a point - albeit the most likely scenario is "in view" - i.e. look after your belongings and guard against theft. HOW does that entitle you to arrogantly post disagrees to everyone else??
Daryo Jun 10:
You have no idea of the specific context the Asker has in mind.

What is right in maybe 99% of cases may be or may not be right in the one specific case that is relevant for choosing "the right term".

"no definite answer" in some case IS "the right answer". Like when there is a reference to a text we know NOTHING about.
Diogo Garcia Jun 10:
@Mr. Serious Translator You've mentioned a news article about a celebrity's belongings being on view, as in on display, in an exhibit. That is surely not the same context as someone telling someone else to "Keep their belongings on view". There's no context in which that doesn't sound like a typo, unless the author is writing a letter to Freddie about that exhibition, of course.
Daryo Jun 10:
Full sentences? BOTH are possible, but the meaning would be different.

IN PHOTOS | Freddie Mercury's belongings on view at Sotheby's exhibit
Items of We Will Rock You, Bohemian Rhapsody singer on display until Sept. 5
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/photos/in-photos-fredd...

Don't leave any belongings in view, even if your car is locked.
https://www.comparethemarket.com/car-insurance/content/car-a...

Without a full sentence, the is no "right" or "wrong" version.

STATISTICALLY "keep your belongings where you can see them (in view)" is more likely, but "translating by statistics" is for MT, not for serious translators.

An example of how "statistical thinking" can be wrong. Combine "drug/medicine + patient + survival" and it must be about the patient surviving thanks to the medicine, right? Try this:

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-french/medical-general...

Responses

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In view

I am certain that the "on view" you found elsewhere in the text is just a typo.
Peer comment(s):

agree Toni Castano : "In view": Close enough to be seen (Cambridge Dic.).
10 mins
agree Diogo Garcia
25 mins
agree AllegroTrans : Yes. "on view" would suggest displaying your belongings to everyone, including thieves
56 mins
agree Lisa Russell
3 hrs
disagree Daryo : In all and any sentences "Keep your belongings in view" is ***always*** the right variant? Sure of that? I can think of at least one case where "Keep your belongings on view" would make perfect sense.
7 hrs
agree Viviane Torres
7 hrs
agree philgoddard
18 hrs
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
7 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much to you all for your help. Emma, I agree with you that it must be a typo. This sentence is part of a warning on a campus, because thefts on the premises have considerably increased Thanks again and have a nice day Inge"
+1
8 mins

in view

Both are possible. "In view" means "so as to be seen", which seems like the best option in this context, if I understand it correctly.

"On view" means "open to public inspection / on exhibition".
Example sentence:

Keep your hands in view at all times.

A wide range of these items is on view at the store.

Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : Both of your example sentences are irrelevant and "on view" would suggest displaying your belongings to everyone, including thieves
1 hr
My answer is "in view". I've simply explained the meaning of both in different contexts. The sentences are not irrelevant. They explain the difference between both terms, which couldn't be more pertinent.
disagree Daryo : "in this context"? Where is that "context"? // You're entering a country where the border control don't mess about and a sign says "Keep all your belongings on view" - totally unrealistic?
7 hrs
It'd be pretty hard to find a context in which "Keep tour belongings on view" would make sense. Also, I put a 3 confidence and wrote it SEEMS to be the right option, IF I understand the context correctly. // Yes, that would indeed sound odd
agree philgoddard : Just to counteract the silly disagree above.
1 day 8 hrs
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
7 days
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2 hrs

In view

The right grammar when talking about putting something into consideration is "In view."

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Note added at 21 hrs (2024-06-11 07:44:59 GMT)
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When you need something to be close up in your sight, or if you need to keep something in perspective. It has to be near you field of vision thats why its more relevant to use "in view" ( near your field of vision ) when its out your field of vision. All the things you see are inside your field of vision "in view" . When something is on view , its put up for display purposes
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : You can find plenty of occurrences where "on view" is the correct version - how do you know which one is correct for an unknown sentence?
4 hrs
In order to better understand the use of " on view " or "in view". Its best to understand the word " VIEW" which one of its simple definitions is seeing something or to be seen from a particular place. When something is displayed to be seen, its ON VIEW
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
7 days
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