Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
with or without
English answer:
Deperin, established/founded in 2005,
English term
with or without "witch"
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What is more acceptable in a contract:
The CAAC is a new division in Deperin which was established in 2005 .....
Or
The CAAC is a new division in Deperin established in 2005
| 4 +5 | Deperin, established/founded in 2005, |
David Hollywood
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Brie Vernier
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| 4 | with, but transposed |
David Moore (X)
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Non-PRO (1): Edith Kelly
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worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Deperin, established/founded in 2005,
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Richard Benham
: Comma would appear to be optional here.
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agree with you Richard and thanks :)
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Michelle Welchons
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thanks Michelle :)
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Edith Kelly
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thanks Edith :)
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Gail Patricia Bulla - nee Charrion
: I like the comma!
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thanks patriz1 :)
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Emilie
: With the comma!
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thanks Emilie :)
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with, but transposed
Reading between the lines, the writer conveys the impression that CAAC was established in 2005 as an additional division in Deperin, where other divisions were already established.
I rather suspect that the CAAC was established in Deperin, this being a new location, in which case my suggestion would be:
"The CAAC is a new division which was established in 2005 in Deperin."
So unless you know something about the company's recent history, either one of these answers could be wrong...
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Brie Vernier
: Deperin appears to be the Dept. of Industry, so not a place as such. Also, English word order stipulates place-manner-time, so if Deperin *were* a place, "in 2005" would come last.//Yes, of course, but IMO that would be a rather unusual emphasis here.
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If the "Deperin" is indeed that department, you are absolutely right. But as to the word order: that's not cut-and-dried, and if Deperin WERE a place, my posting could well be correct. Accentuating by unconventional word-order, you know...
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Germany
Bridging the language gap since 1995
Native in: English (Variants: US, British, UK)
Works in: German to English
reword
The CAAC was established in 2005 as a new division of Deperin.
Alternatively, depending on where your emphasis needs to be, this could also work:
- The CAAC, a new division of Deperin, was established in 2005.
Also, please note that you've missed out a "di" in the last sentence:
"... development programs in Indonesia more effectively."
| Oh yes I missed out "di". Thank you very much |
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