Jan 22, 2006 02:12
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English term
northern Edo Japan or in the north of Edo in Japan?
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The modern history of S City saw its start as the largest castle town in the northern Edo (presently Tokyo) Japan when the lord constructed a castle in Aobayama in 1603.
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Jan 22, 2006 02:55: JCEC changed "Term asked" from "northern Edo Japan or inthe north of Edo in Japan? " to "northern Edo Japan or in the north of Edo in Japan? "
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in Japan north of Edo (now called Tokyo)...
'in Japan north of Edo (now called Tokyo)..'
it is not in Edo, so it is not northern Edo
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(the sentence has other problems with it too)
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In the Miyagi Prefecture, and in the northeast region (Tohoku) of Japan.
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'built by the ruler .. '
or actually it could be better to say: 'daimyo' by the name of Date Masamune,
kaitan (conveyor) style sushi
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by the way, it is rumored that kaitan sushi began in Sendai, but I think it is simply that it was the first place in eastern Japan that had a kaitan sushi shop.
it is not in Edo, so it is not northern Edo
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(the sentence has other problems with it too)
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In the Miyagi Prefecture, and in the northeast region (Tohoku) of Japan.
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'built by the ruler .. '
or actually it could be better to say: 'daimyo' by the name of Date Masamune,
kaitan (conveyor) style sushi
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by the way, it is rumored that kaitan sushi began in Sendai, but I think it is simply that it was the first place in eastern Japan that had a kaitan sushi shop.
Note from asker:
| There has been a Katen Sushi Shop in Sendai since 30 years ago. Please go to "Sushikan" if you visit Sendai. |
Peer comment(s):
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William [Bill] Gray
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thanks
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Mike Delta
: If you wish to write decent English Charles, you need to put a comma in your sentence, in the appropriate place.
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Roddy Stegemann
: Very nice Charles. Next time, I will not fail to look up the place where the castle was built -- namely, Aobayama. I have never been to Sendai, and never new that Sendai City existed -- only Sendai Prefecture. So, was my explanation wasted?
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and a happy Chinese New Year to you (in HK)
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English term (edited):
northern edo japan or inthe north of edo in japan?
Would be a city in Northern Japan, Edo
This is talking about a city in Northern Japan. Relative to Japan,not north of Edo.
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This could be worded slightly better to make it more clear by maybe rearranging some of the words.
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This could be worded slightly better to make it more clear by maybe rearranging some of the words.
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Many possibilities
There are many ways to express this idea, but the two you have chosen are both incorrect. For example, you could say:
1) in a northern district of Edo
2) in the northern part of Edo
3) in a northern suburb of Edo
4) in North Edo (only if it corresponds to the equivalent of Kita Edo - a formal name, if such existed)..
To the best of my knowledge the word Edo refers to a politically well-defined urban center, a historical period, and a cultural epoch. Edo was never a large geographical region like Northern Alaska, Northern Michigan, or any other formally designated portion of a large geographical area.
By way of further example, one can say "in northern Japan" and "in the north of Japan", but one would not say North Japan, or Northern Japan, because Japan is formally divided horizontally relative to the equator as East and West Japan.
Also, to say that Edo lies "in Japan" seems at best superfluous and at worst nationalistic; unless, of course, the reader has no prior knowledge of Japan, and cannot deduce from the context in which the sentence appears that Edo is located in Japan.
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By the way, Happy New Year from Hong Kong!
Please see, http://homepage.mac.com/moogoonghwa/ for me Japanese New Year's greeting. The Chinese New Year has yet to begin, but the decorations are already up!
1) in a northern district of Edo
2) in the northern part of Edo
3) in a northern suburb of Edo
4) in North Edo (only if it corresponds to the equivalent of Kita Edo - a formal name, if such existed)..
To the best of my knowledge the word Edo refers to a politically well-defined urban center, a historical period, and a cultural epoch. Edo was never a large geographical region like Northern Alaska, Northern Michigan, or any other formally designated portion of a large geographical area.
By way of further example, one can say "in northern Japan" and "in the north of Japan", but one would not say North Japan, or Northern Japan, because Japan is formally divided horizontally relative to the equator as East and West Japan.
Also, to say that Edo lies "in Japan" seems at best superfluous and at worst nationalistic; unless, of course, the reader has no prior knowledge of Japan, and cannot deduce from the context in which the sentence appears that Edo is located in Japan.
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By the way, Happy New Year from Hong Kong!
Please see, http://homepage.mac.com/moogoonghwa/ for me Japanese New Year's greeting. The Chinese New Year has yet to begin, but the decorations are already up!
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Neither
Both need suitable punctuation, and suitable capitals.
An 11 year old English child who wrote either would be rated literate.
Probably ;- Northern Edo, Japan.
Geography is another disclipine.
An 11 year old English child who wrote either would be rated literate.
Probably ;- Northern Edo, Japan.
Geography is another disclipine.
Peer comment(s):
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Charlesp
: 1) inappropriate way of critiizing. 2) there is no such thing or place as 'Northern Edo, Japan.'
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Please justify your claim that I criticized in short sharp words and short sharp sentences Charles. My example shows probable punctuation. I am happy to show probable punctuation in fiction . The discipline is language, English, not geography.
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English term (edited):
northern edo japan or inthe north of edo in japan?
northern Edo
A well-known Confucian scholar during the Tokugawa shogunate (1602-1867), Ogihu Sorai, congratulated himself for moving house a couple of miles nearer China, the country of the Sage, from northern Edo (present-day Tokyo) to Shinagawa in its southwestern suburbs, the starting point for the celebrated Tokaido (East Sea Way) leading to the imperial capital of Kyoto.
http://www.npf.org.tw/PUBLICATION/NS/094/NS-C-094-259.htm
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eastern-Edo (modern Tokyo)
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=149
When he moved to Fukagawa, in eastern Edo
http://attjapan.sakura.ne.jp/modules/tinyd0/rewrite/tc_54.ht...
http://www.npf.org.tw/PUBLICATION/NS/094/NS-C-094-259.htm
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eastern-Edo (modern Tokyo)
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=149
When he moved to Fukagawa, in eastern Edo
http://attjapan.sakura.ne.jp/modules/tinyd0/rewrite/tc_54.ht...
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