Aug 24, 2009 23:29
14 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Fideicomitente Uno
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
source text from Mexico
I am translating a trust agreement that involves three parties; there is a "fideicomitente uno y fideicomitente dos." Their information appears in the first paragraph of the agreement, and states that hereinafter they will be referred to as "fideicomitente uno," etc.
How does that translate into clear English in the business world?
How does that translate into clear English in the business world?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | First settlor |
Alicia Orfalian
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| 3 | first trustor |
Gad Kohenov
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References
| Fideicomitente discussions |
argosys
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Proposed translations
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Alicia Orfalian
Argentina
Argentina
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Argentina
Finance, Health Care & HR Pro
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American) 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
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88-25 Insurance Coverage of Revocable and Irrevocable - FDIC: FDIC ...
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Upon the death of the first settlor (spouse), the trust assets are divided in half and placed into two separate trusts. The first is a revocable trust with ...
www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/.../4000-3150.html - En caché - Similares -
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Resolution Temp-82
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Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista
If two or more persons establish a joint trust, each is a settlor as to that person's own. 2 contributed property. Upon the death of the first settlor to ...
www.calconference.org/pdfs/R2009/12-09-2009.pdf - Similares -
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Estate Planning, Wills and Trusts: For Business Owners and ... - Resultado de la Búsqueda de libros de Google
de W. Rod Stern - 2007 - Business & Economics - 320 páginas
Division of Trust Estate After First Death. When the first settlor dies, the trustee shall divide the trust estate, including amounts added by reason of the ...
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=1599180944... -
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Diccionario de Finanzas (Bilingüe) - Resultado de la Búsqueda de libros de Google
de Fabricio V Godoy, Orlando Greco - 2004 - Business & Economics - 127 páginas
Settlor: Fideicomitente. Seven sisters: Siete hermanas. Severa! current account: Cuenta corriente indistinta. Severa! liability: Responsabilidad solidaria. ...
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=950743240X... -
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FNTIC.com
Settlor (Fideicomitente) - Alguien que crea un fideicomiso. Severalty Ownership (Propiedad individual) - Propiedad mantenida por una sola persona. ...
spanish.fntic.com/wordsphrases.asp?letter=S - En caché - Similares -
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Gad Kohenov
Israel
Israel
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Israel
30 years of experience+satisfied clients
Native in: French 
, Hebrew
Works in: English to Hebrew, Hebrew to English, French to Hebrew, and 8 more.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-08-25 07:20:50 GMT)
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Both trustor and settlor are ok, see below:
a settlor is also referred to as a trustor, or occasionally, a grantor or donor.
Where the trust is a testamentary trust, the settlor is usually referred to as the testator.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-08-25 07:20:50 GMT)
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Both trustor and settlor are ok, see below:
a settlor is also referred to as a trustor, or occasionally, a grantor or donor.
Where the trust is a testamentary trust, the settlor is usually referred to as the testator.
Reference comments
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Reference:
Fideicomitente discussions
Definition of settlor:
set·tlor (sět'lər)
n. One that makes a business or financial settlement or a settlement of property.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/settlor
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The following online discussions may be useful for reference regarding the above term.
Re: fideicomiso / fiduciario/ fiduciante/ fideicomitido
Acá te van las traducciones que en mi opinión equivalen a lo que vos estás solicitando:
A. Fideicomiso: Trust
B. Fiduciario (conocido también como Fideicomitido): Trustee, Fiduciary
C. Fiduciante (conocido también como Fideicomitente, Constituyente o Cedente): Trustor, Grantor, Settlor, Creator, Donor
D. Patrimonio Fideicomitido o Bienes Fideicomitidos: Trust Property, Trust Fund, Trust Estate http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=347969&highl...
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Re: fideicomitente
You are right, fideicomitente is a trustor or grantor (I found grantor; is it a more common term?).
Fideicomisario, however, (in Mexico at least) is definetly the trust beneficiary and in the case of real estate trusts is almost always the foreigner who bought the land. Fiduciario is the trustee, usually a bank. My confusion is that in what I was translating, one entity was both the Grantor and the beneficiary.
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=847781&highl...
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Re: fiduciario, fideicomitente [es-mx=>en-ca]
Creo que no del todo.
Fiduciary o trustee que es el término que faltaba es la institución fiduciaria.
Fideicomisario es el beneficiary.
Fideicomitente es el trustor o founder of a trust.
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=44496
set·tlor (sět'lər)
n. One that makes a business or financial settlement or a settlement of property.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/settlor
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The following online discussions may be useful for reference regarding the above term.
Re: fideicomiso / fiduciario/ fiduciante/ fideicomitido
Acá te van las traducciones que en mi opinión equivalen a lo que vos estás solicitando:
A. Fideicomiso: Trust
B. Fiduciario (conocido también como Fideicomitido): Trustee, Fiduciary
C. Fiduciante (conocido también como Fideicomitente, Constituyente o Cedente): Trustor, Grantor, Settlor, Creator, Donor
D. Patrimonio Fideicomitido o Bienes Fideicomitidos: Trust Property, Trust Fund, Trust Estate http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=347969&highl...
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Re: fideicomitente
You are right, fideicomitente is a trustor or grantor (I found grantor; is it a more common term?).
Fideicomisario, however, (in Mexico at least) is definetly the trust beneficiary and in the case of real estate trusts is almost always the foreigner who bought the land. Fiduciario is the trustee, usually a bank. My confusion is that in what I was translating, one entity was both the Grantor and the beneficiary.
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=847781&highl...
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Re: fiduciario, fideicomitente [es-mx=>en-ca]
Creo que no del todo.
Fiduciary o trustee que es el término que faltaba es la institución fiduciaria.
Fideicomisario es el beneficiary.
Fideicomitente es el trustor o founder of a trust.
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=44496
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