mediante diligencia

English translation: by means of an additional notarial act

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Spanish term or phrase:	mediante diligencia
English translation:	by means of an additional notarial act
Entered by:	larserik

21:06 Apr 26, 2024

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Real Estate / contract

Spanish term or phrase: mediante diligencia

I have this in a real estate contract from Spain, in 2004:

Los comparecientes declaran que no pueden aportar referencia catastral, autorizándome a hacer constar, mediante diligencia, la información que sobre el particular reciba de los propios otorgantes o del Catastro.

What does the notary want to say?

larserik KudoZ activity Questions: 997 (9 open) (34 without valid answers) (78 closed without grading) Answers: 530 Sweden
Local time: 17:46

by means of an additional notarial act

Explanation:
There can be little doubt that "diligencia" is near the top of the list of Spanish words most hated by translators. This is mainly because it is given so many different meanings. In this case one has to note that the words are those of the notary, and what he is saying is that he will add the information to the public deed he is issuing by means of a "diligencia" once it has been received. Those of you who like me eke a living out of translating Spanish deeds will know that often the deed will end with a page addded subsequently headed "DILIGENCIA". So how is it to be translated? I truly hope someone can come up with an authoritative answer, but I have got away with translating it as "additional procedure or notarial act" because that is what it is.

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Note added at 19 horas (2024-04-27 16:22:04 GMT)
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The notarial glossary entry posted below clearly states that a notarial "diligencia" is an addition to a preexisting document. Note also the use of "constar" as in the asker's source text.

diligencia f. Acta donde consta la forma y circunstancias en que se ejecuta un acuerdo o decisión judicial. Asímismo, hay diligencias notariales, en las que se hace constar en un documento ya preexistente una actuación posterior en el tiempo.

D - Glosario de términos notariales - Notariado

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patinba
Argentina
Local time: 12:46

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by means of an additional notarial act

patinba

Discussion entries: 11

larserik

Sweden

ASKER

@Phil

23:35 Apr 27

Correct. The reason I didn't find the old discussion must be I searched for mediante diligencia, not only diligencia. And the reason for that was I wanted to get suggestions that fit into my context, which was half a success, if you look at the divergent answers.

philgoddard

United States

After all that

23:01 Apr 27

It turns out we've had this several times before.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/482...

Toni Castano

Spain

@Larserik

21:48 Apr 27

No, not at all. Why then? It's just been a misunderstanding. Good luck with your project and have a nice evening!

larserik

Sweden

ASKER

@Toni

21:39 Apr 27

Thanks again - no hard feelings then? :-)

Toni Castano

Spain

@Larserik

20:32 Apr 27

No problem. Don't attach too much importance to the issue. Glad to have been of help and best of luck with your, obviously, demanding project.
Saludos a Sverige!

larserik

Sweden

ASKER

@Toni

20:27 Apr 27

Sorry to see you go, but it's your choice of course. But to me it seems you didn't understand what I wrote to explain the deletion. I never complained about your intervention to clarify things.

larserik

Sweden

ASKER

@Toni

20:21 Apr 27

Toni, you (and patinba) have convinced me, no need for more references. Thanks to both of you!

Toni Castano

Spain

@Larserik

20:15 Apr 27

No such waste of energy since my intervention has helped to clarify things... as far as I can judge. Your comment, instead of a polite "thank you", says it all. I' m finished here.
Goodbye forever.

larserik

Sweden

ASKER

@Toni

19:42 Apr 27

I deleted my comment because I read your explanation further down. Waste of energy to worry about a deleted comment.

Toni Castano

Spain

@Larserik (2)

17:40 Apr 27

Please see below (also posted by patinba):
http://glosario.notariado.org
Glosario de términos notariales
(…)
Diligencia f.
Acta donde consta la forma y circunstancias en que se ejecuta un acuerdo o decisión judicial. Asímismo, hay diligencias notariales, en las que se hace constar en un documento ya preexistente una ACTUACIÓN POSTERIOR en el tiempo.
Ejemplo. Se otorga un acta notarial por la que se solicita del notario que haga un requerimiento a una persona. El notario lo hace al día siguiente de la fecha del acta. Esta actuación se refleja en el acta a continuación, por medio de una diligencia con la firma del notario.

Hope to post some other references, but later...

Toni Castano

Spain

@Larserik (1)

17:38 Apr 27

I have seen that you deleted a previous comment of yours where you expressed your doubts about what I certainly deem the right approach and answer here, i.e. patinba´s suggestion. Of course, I can understand your skepticism, even more when I see that the very same question was asked (probably by you) yesterday on a different forum, and, like on this one here, a wrong answer was also posted. I am speaking about the following:
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/mediante-diligencia....
(…)
“Upon my own inquiry” or “upon my own search efforts”
Diligencia, literally means the Notary’s own undertaking.

This approach is a wrong interpretation too. I recommend reading the official definition of the query term “diligencia” applicable to this specific case, namely, when there is already a deed and something additional is added, for whatever reason, to the original notarial document.

Answers

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peer agreement (net): +4

by means of an additional notarial act

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 12:46
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 131

Grading comment

Thanks a lot!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Adrian MM.: An authoritative answer has already been supplied on this site by a one-time ProZ City of London, *Scrivener-Linguist* Notary Public & ECJ translator: 'action taken' or 'record made' at the end of a notarial instrument/deed, but doesn't fit this context.

2 hrs

agree

Toni Castano: Truly the right approach here. I am just collecting some references to post them together later. Surprising what others think about this Kudoz query...

18 hrs

-> Thank you, Toni!

agree

AllegroTrans

18 hrs

-> Thank you!

agree

Diego Valencia: This approach makes most sense. The audience, ES realestate, is most important. The authorship being an ES notarial agent is most significant.

21 hrs

-> Thank you!

agree

philgoddard: Yes, I think you're right.

1 day 32 mins

-> Thank you, Phil!

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