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Thread poster: Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
May 18, 2024

Summary:
Don't add quotes to your glossaries. Add straight double quotes to your memories (if necessary).

I am trying to find a solution to the fuzzy matching problems resulting from differences in quotes (“, ”, ‘, ’, ", „, », «, ‹, ›,《 , 》, ') between different versions of the same document.

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The glossary:
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Matches from the glossary:
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Observations:

  • Segment #3 is only a Fuzzy Match of segment #2.
  • Segment #4 is an Exact Match of segment #3!
  • Terms in source segments that contain double quotes, are recognized in the Glossary pane, auto-assembled in the Target segment editor, but not highlighted there. (A cosmetic glitch that is a little confusing.)


Conclusions:

  • The straight double quotes match all curly quotes (single or double).
  • Curly quotes (single or double) don't match other curly quotes.


Best practices:
TMs:

  • Replace all quotes with straight double quotes in the source segments (see below).
  • Replace all quotes with straight double quotes in the target segments.


Glossaries:

  • Don't add quotes to the source terms in your glossaries.
  • Don't add quotes to the target terms in your glossaries.
  • If necessary: Add quotes to your target segments during the translation phase.
  • Or better: Run Find and Replace actions on the target segments to add the appropriate quotes prior to doing your QA.


Finding and replacing:
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App settings:
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[Edited at 2024-05-19 06:05 GMT]
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Edited May 19, 2024

I finished the post.
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Adding quotes to the target segments May 19, 2024

You can do this via QA > Word lists > Find and replace in target segments:
Screen Shot 2024-05-19 at 09.01.58
You can save these client-specific replacement lists.
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Note: I have no idea why the case is toggled.


[Edited at 2024-05-20 05:49 GMT]
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Answer May 20, 2024

I wrote:

Note: I have no idea why the case is toggled.


[Edited at 2024-05-20 05:49 GMT]



Answer from the developer:

Please see the "Preserve case with replacement" option in the Find and Replace panel.
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Final step: Replace all straight double quotes with curly double quotes May 21, 2024

Use this regular expressions to replace nearly all straight double quotes with curly double quotes:

Screenshot 2024-05-21 at 07.36.27

Then search for any remaining straight double quotes, spanning tags or being unpaired in the segment, manually. Fix them too.

Edit: Whole words shouldn't be ticked.


[Edited at 2024-05-21 05:40 GMT]
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Amandement Aug 23, 2024

Hans Lenting wrote:

Glossaries:

Don't add quotes to the source terms in your glossaries.
Don't add quotes to the target terms in your glossaries.


I'd like to turn that advice into:

Glossaries:

Don't add quotes to the source terms in your glossaries.
Optionally, add quotes to the target terms in your glossaries.
 


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