Basic question on processors Thread poster: Robin Salmon (X)
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Robin Salmon (X) 
Australia
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Can someone please tell me which processor is the faster:
Intel(R) Corte(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz
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AMD 6000+.
Grateful for your help!
Robin
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Can't tell you about these specific ones uou mentioned, however I have some accidental experience with the two brands.
I had an AMD Sempron 3 GHz (Asus motherboard) and for reasons irrelevant here, I changed to an Intel Pentium 4 - 3 GHz (Semp Toshiba motherboard). Everything else in the system remained the same.
As I do a lot of video work, subtitling, DVD authoring, I soon realized that while the Intel Pentium is slower to do anything else, it is twice as fast as the ... See more Can't tell you about these specific ones uou mentioned, however I have some accidental experience with the two brands.
I had an AMD Sempron 3 GHz (Asus motherboard) and for reasons irrelevant here, I changed to an Intel Pentium 4 - 3 GHz (Semp Toshiba motherboard). Everything else in the system remained the same.
As I do a lot of video work, subtitling, DVD authoring, I soon realized that while the Intel Pentium is slower to do anything else, it is twice as fast as the AMD Sempron for rendering video.
I was told that the motherboard, especially the BIOS can make a lot of difference, however I'd blindly expect an Asus to be better than an STI.
Hope this helps. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Neil Coffey
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| Don't get too bogged down | Jul 14, 2011 |
Beyond some basic level, I would say don't get too bogged down by CPU speed.
For things like video editing, performance is determined more by the GPU (Graphics Processor Unit) on your graphics card.
For other stuff, however fast your processor is, your hard disk will be orders of magnitude slower.
| | | | | The Intel is faster | Jul 14, 2011 |
If we are to believe these benchmarks, the Intel is faster.
However, more than a faster processor, what you need in translation is as much memory as you can, since all software tends to eat a lot of memory. I strongly recoment at least 4 GB of memory (with some OS, 4 GB is the maximum usable).
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Robin Salmon (X)
Australia
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TOPIC STARTER | Thanks for the helpful responses | Jul 14, 2011 |
@ Tomás - thanks for your answer. When the AMD Was installed it was considered fast but that was three years ago. The technician, new to the firm, who recently installed my new motherboard was not familiar with the heavy use I make of my computer and I wondered if he had put a decent processor on it. I have noticed that Dragon Pro 11 takes an age to load and it also crashed a couple of times when I reopened it, while using it in conjunction with Trados Workbench and Word, as is my wont. It look... See more @ Tomás - thanks for your answer. When the AMD Was installed it was considered fast but that was three years ago. The technician, new to the firm, who recently installed my new motherboard was not familiar with the heavy use I make of my computer and I wondered if he had put a decent processor on it. I have noticed that Dragon Pro 11 takes an age to load and it also crashed a couple of times when I reopened it, while using it in conjunction with Trados Workbench and Word, as is my wont. It looks as if I had better get some more RAM. I currently have 3.42 GB.
Thanks for your help, guys! ▲ Collapse
| | | | | What OS do you have? | Jul 14, 2011 |
Indeed, slowness in loading apps is more on the memory side than on the processor side. Your first try should always be to increase the memory up to the maximum addressable by the operating system.
Here you can find the memory limits of Windows operating systems. The limit also depends on whether your processor is a 32-bit processor (X86 in the info) or a 64-bit processor (X64 in the info).... See more Indeed, slowness in loading apps is more on the memory side than on the processor side. Your first try should always be to increase the memory up to the maximum addressable by the operating system.
Here you can find the memory limits of Windows operating systems. The limit also depends on whether your processor is a 32-bit processor (X86 in the info) or a 64-bit processor (X64 in the info).
I believe your AMD Athlon X2 6000+ (I think this is the full designation) is a 64-bit processor, so your memory limit is more on the side of the operating system. What operating system do you use? ▲ Collapse
| | | | Robin Salmon (X)
Australia
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TOPIC STARTER | Thanks again | Jul 14, 2011 |
@ Tomás - My OS is Windows XP and so I see the max RAM is 4GB - thanks for that info. My new processor is the Intel, by the way (the AMD was the old one).
| | | | | Indeed then just 4 GB | Jul 14, 2011 |
Then I reckon you could add 1 GB to the setup and you would be over the limit already.
As for Dragon, it is a very processor and memory intensive product. I reckon that in the long run, i.e. when you buy a new machine, you might want to shoot for a 64-bit environment, as long as all your software product support it. I have Windows XP and a 32-bit environment too at the moment, but my next machine will definitely be a 64-bit environment to better exploit the memory and processor capa... See more Then I reckon you could add 1 GB to the setup and you would be over the limit already.
As for Dragon, it is a very processor and memory intensive product. I reckon that in the long run, i.e. when you buy a new machine, you might want to shoot for a 64-bit environment, as long as all your software product support it. I have Windows XP and a 32-bit environment too at the moment, but my next machine will definitely be a 64-bit environment to better exploit the memory and processor capabilities.
Good luck! ▲ Collapse
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Tom in London
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Member (2008)
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| It isn't just the processor speed that matters | Jul 14, 2011 |
the processor speed may not be a reliable guide to anything. What really affects a computer's performance is the architecture: how it processes data - which does not really depend on the processor speed.
| | | | Robin Salmon (X)
Australia
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TOPIC STARTER | Reason for my thinking | Jul 14, 2011 |
My tech, who is highly knowledgeable in his sphere for someone in an Australian country town, suggested a faster processor would be helpful in my case, about 3 years ago. We all have to take advice where we can find it and its veracity emerges in time.
| | | | | Some tricks to gain speed | Jul 14, 2011 |
In automotive terms, how about removing your "anvil collection" from the trunk, as well as that toy that fell underneath the throttle pedal?
Windows XP is still excellent. I've used other computers in the family with Vista and Win 7, and I'll stay with XP on mine, at least for the time being. Among these, there are two identical netbooks, one with XP, the other with Windows 7 - in my experience, the XP wins.
... See more In automotive terms, how about removing your "anvil collection" from the trunk, as well as that toy that fell underneath the throttle pedal?
Windows XP is still excellent. I've used other computers in the family with Vista and Win 7, and I'll stay with XP on mine, at least for the time being. Among these, there are two identical netbooks, one with XP, the other with Windows 7 - in my experience, the XP wins.
Phisycal disk access makes a lot of difference. Visit http://www.grc.com and watch the videos about SpinRite. From where I stand, it has been more effective to protect data and your time than a somewhat paranoid backup stance. I haven't used any of my backups since I got it.
Another thing that really hampers Windows performance is a corrupted registry.
First I bought Registry Booster. You may get it to check how many errors it finds in your registry for free, before you decide upon buying it. My computer had some 400 when I did it. I run it every 5-7 days.
Then I bought AVG PC TuneUp, which, among many other things, repairs the registry too.
I've tried alternating RB and AVGPCTU, and one always picks up things the other missed, so I use both, one after the other to repair the Windows registry.
The AVGPCTU has another very useful feature for improving speed, which is disk defrag and optimize hard disks now and then.
It's easy to find out the costs for all three programs, I guess the sum is not more than USD 100-150, yet the gain in overall speed is amazing. Not much use in moving from a 4-cylinder engine to a V6 or V8 and keeping your anvil collection in the trunk. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | There is only one way to gain speed | Jul 14, 2011 |
While I agree with José's points, SSD is the only way to make a 'quantum leap' in speed on today's home computers. You'll never wish to go back to regular drives.
I didn't believe it until I saw it too.
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