Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
bibliographic record
French translation:
fiche bibliographique
Added to glossary by
Jennifer Levey
Dec 3, 2016 11:41
7 yrs ago
English term
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Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Portuguese to French
bibliographic record
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Hi there,
I am translating a text explaining basic and advanced functions of a search tool in a library.
It says:
"When running a search, the search default is set to Anywhere. Anywhere searches the full bibliographic record (all indexed fields) including the XXX full text. Your organization’s XXX administrator may have chosen to change the default to search Anywhere except full text (ALL) instead. Anywhere except full text (ALL) searches the full bibliographic record, but does NOT include a search of the XXX full text."
I am confused with bibliographic records - Would this be "cote"? Or would it be 'fonds"?
Any suggestion welcome!
Thanks
I am translating a text explaining basic and advanced functions of a search tool in a library.
It says:
"When running a search, the search default is set to Anywhere. Anywhere searches the full bibliographic record (all indexed fields) including the XXX full text. Your organization’s XXX administrator may have chosen to change the default to search Anywhere except full text (ALL) instead. Anywhere except full text (ALL) searches the full bibliographic record, but does NOT include a search of the XXX full text."
I am confused with bibliographic records - Would this be "cote"? Or would it be 'fonds"?
Any suggestion welcome!
Thanks
Proposed translations
(French)
| 4 +2 | fiche bibliographique |
Jennifer Levey
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| 3 +5 | Notice bibliographique |
Cathy Lefloch
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| 3 | notice bibliographique |
dandamesh
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Change log
Dec 12, 2016 11:29: Jennifer Levey Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
+2
4 hrs
Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Specializes in field
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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fiche bibliographique
"Notice bibliographique" is the formal term used by librarians. However, in Asker's ST, "record" also needs to make sense to someone coming from a more-general background. She has raised this point herself under Cathy's answer. For non-specialists, "fiche" will convey the idea better - after all, we're all "fiché(s)s", aren't we ...
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=077480565X
Data bank made up of two databases: linguistic and sources. ... Each record includes: file, subject field, French or English equivalent, list of sources ... Chaque fiche comprend la mention du fonds, du domaine, l'équivalent français ou anglais, ...
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Note added at 4 hrs (2016-12-03 16:20:11 GMT)
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oops! - "fiché(s)s" --> "fiché(e)s"
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=077480565X
Data bank made up of two databases: linguistic and sources. ... Each record includes: file, subject field, French or English equivalent, list of sources ... Chaque fiche comprend la mention du fonds, du domaine, l'équivalent français ou anglais, ...
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Note added at 4 hrs (2016-12-03 16:20:11 GMT)
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oops! - "fiché(s)s" --> "fiché(e)s"
Note from asker:
| Thanks! Thing is, in the examples I gave yesterday, it's weird to me to translate records by fiche or notice, for this type of sentence: "It is a full record search, but does not include a search on the full text"= Recherche dans la fiche bibliographique mais pas dans le texte intégral...? Does not make much sense, does it? |
| Thanks, in this context, "fiche" was the more appropriate word. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+5
26 mins
Cathy Lefloch
France
France
Native in French
Works in field
France
Working with passion for 11 yrs
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French
Notice bibliographique
"Notice bibliographique" seems to match here.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, very helpful! Now, when it's not written bibliographic, like in "Enter keyword(s) without a field code label to search the entire record." or "It is a full record search, but does not include a search on the full text" ; how would you translate record? Stilll by notice? Or ouvrages? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
dandamesh
3 mins
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| agree |
Annie Rigler
5 mins
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| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
1 hr
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| agree |
Olivier Latil
1 hr
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| agree |
Chakib Roula
3 hrs
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29 mins
notice bibliographique
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_bibliographique
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Note added at 40 mins (2016-12-03 12:21:52 GMT)
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usually, if you run a search in the bibliographic record you may search different fields such as
title, authors, affiliation, abstract, etc... but not full text.
full-text searching needs more advanced search engines and commands
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Note added at 43 mins (2016-12-03 12:24:56 GMT)
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http://www.loc.gov/z3950/
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Note added at 40 mins (2016-12-03 12:21:52 GMT)
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usually, if you run a search in the bibliographic record you may search different fields such as
title, authors, affiliation, abstract, etc... but not full text.
full-text searching needs more advanced search engines and commands
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Note added at 43 mins (2016-12-03 12:24:56 GMT)
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http://www.loc.gov/z3950/
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