Sep 12, 2004 23:44
19 yrs ago
English term
United States
Literature & Scholarship
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: French to English, English, German to English
pig latin
English to French
Art/Literary
Linguistics
how do you say "pig latin" in French... or is there an equivalent? Is the closest approximation verlan?
Proposed translations
(French)
| 5 +4 | verlan |
aqanai
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| 4 +1 | javanais !! |
eirinn
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| 5 -1 | latin de cuisine |
lien
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Proposed translations
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15 mins
aqanai
Specializes in field
Selected
verlan
Yes. Verlan is the closest equivalent. In Pig Latin one takes the first consonant, puts it at the end on the word, and adds -ay (pronounced like -ey in French. In Verlan one takes the first syllable and puts it at the end of the word.
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Note added at 13 hrs 15 mins (2004-09-13 13:00:43 GMT)
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Pig Latin, like verlan, does not have to be used for the entire sentence. Single words may be used, e.g., okay (from k.o., knockout), ofay (from foe). Javanais, like Miesurray is only used for entire sentences.
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Note added at 13 hrs 15 mins (2004-09-13 13:00:43 GMT)
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Pig Latin, like verlan, does not have to be used for the entire sentence. Single words may be used, e.g., okay (from k.o., knockout), ofay (from foe). Javanais, like Miesurray is only used for entire sentences.
Peer comment(s):
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sarahl (X)
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RHELLER
: children use it to encode their conversations
19 mins
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Hebe Martorella
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Alfa Trans (X)
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eirinn
: I would go for javanais and not verlan. Verlan is not so much a code, whereas javanais is.
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Pig Latin, like verlan, is not a code. It is merely taking the first cononant and putting it at the end of the word and adding -ay, similar to Verlan’s taking the first syllable and putting it at the end of the word. Javanais inserts syllables within it
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NancyLynn
: verlan: Comme tout argot, le verlan (inversion de l'envers), permet de marquer l'appartenance a un groupe particulier, de n'etre compris que des membres de ce groupe (dico Que-Amerique)
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "i couldn't decide between javanais and verlan-- both of you gave interesting info. thanks for your input!"
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javanais !!
le javanais c'est :
Argot conventionnel consistant à intercaler dans les mots les syllabes va ou av (ex. chaussure « chavaussavurave)
(Définition du Robert)
Ok, it might be less used than verlan nowadays, but it was before verlan existed. You don't ad any letters in verlan, or hardly, whereas in javanais, you do.
The Grand Dictionnaire Larousse English French also gives javanais as translation.
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Note added at 9 hrs 0 min (2004-09-13 08:45:04 GMT)
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Javanais is like a code, easy to decypher but is is.
Verlan is not a code (in my own opinion), it\'s a way of talking, \"fashionable\". Javanais is mostly used by kids, verlan is used by youth wanting to \"fit in\" and to be different.
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Note added at 12 hrs 44 mins (2004-09-13 12:29:41 GMT)
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Javanais is like a code, easy to decypher but is is.
Verlan is not a code (in my own opinion), it\'s a way of talking, \"fashionable\". Javanais is mostly used by kids, verlan is used by youth wanting to \"fit in\" and to be different.
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Note added at 12 hrs 55 mins (2004-09-13 12:40:07 GMT)
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let\'s see
Verlan
Laisse béton : one normal word, one verlan word
va voir ta meuf : 3 normal words, one verlan word
Javanais
lavaissave tavombaver
vava vavoir tava favemmave
all words \"coded\" in Javanais.
Argot conventionnel consistant à intercaler dans les mots les syllabes va ou av (ex. chaussure « chavaussavurave)
(Définition du Robert)
Ok, it might be less used than verlan nowadays, but it was before verlan existed. You don't ad any letters in verlan, or hardly, whereas in javanais, you do.
The Grand Dictionnaire Larousse English French also gives javanais as translation.
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Note added at 9 hrs 0 min (2004-09-13 08:45:04 GMT)
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Javanais is like a code, easy to decypher but is is.
Verlan is not a code (in my own opinion), it\'s a way of talking, \"fashionable\". Javanais is mostly used by kids, verlan is used by youth wanting to \"fit in\" and to be different.
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Note added at 12 hrs 44 mins (2004-09-13 12:29:41 GMT)
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Javanais is like a code, easy to decypher but is is.
Verlan is not a code (in my own opinion), it\'s a way of talking, \"fashionable\". Javanais is mostly used by kids, verlan is used by youth wanting to \"fit in\" and to be different.
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Note added at 12 hrs 55 mins (2004-09-13 12:40:07 GMT)
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let\'s see
Verlan
Laisse béton : one normal word, one verlan word
va voir ta meuf : 3 normal words, one verlan word
Javanais
lavaissave tavombaver
vava vavoir tava favemmave
all words \"coded\" in Javanais.
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aqanai
: No, Javanais is more like Miasurray, which inserts ias befor the first vowel.
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Then both are some kind of codes. Verlan is NOT a code. you can use one verlan word in a totally normal sentence. For Javanais it applies to ALL words, like pig Latin.
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Helene Diu
: Seems more appropriate than verlan which is definitely some fashion language ("l'envers" des mots, like the name itself says) and not a language game or code
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thanks!
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palani
: just got it from Robert Collins
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thanks!
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