Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

Учёный совет (here)

English translation:

Science Board / Scientific Council

Added to glossary by Fiona Paterson
Feb 24, 2009 17:03
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Russian term

Учёный совет (here)

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Dear All

I'm working on a biography of a Ukrainian doctor (still!). He worked at Akademgorodok in the 1960s, and the text makes a lot of references to the Учёный совет of the Siberian Branch of the Soviet Academy of Sciences.

I'm aware that this term normally means 'the Academic Senate' - the highest administrative body of a university. Yet my text refers repeatedly to the Учёный совет listening to presentations on scientific research and acting as a dissertation committee for PhDs.

My question is, is it possible that an Учёный совет would award PhDs and listen to presentations - and in this case, should I use a different translation than 'Academic Senate'? I have to say that at times the совет seems to be large (the hall is packed when Dr Buteyko is giving his presentation) and at times small (when he is presenting his thesis). Or is my author confused?

Many thanks in advance for help

Fiona

Discussion

Fiona Paterson (asker) Feb 24, 2009:
Actually, I think I've just found the answer to my question (or at least part of it): the Siberian Branch seems to have 'scientific councils' (for example, Объединенный ученый совет по физическим наукам СО РАН). I can imagine such a body listening to presentations, but PhDs seems rather strange, so any enlightenment welcome. (It's odd that I've just found that - I've spent hours researching the term, then as soon as I ask others, it becomes clear...)

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Science Board / Scientific Council

I improvised, departing from a similar body in at least some North American research entities – academic and non. There's no use googling around in this case, becaure the whole thing is kind of lose. But trust me, I don't think the Academic Senate has anything to do with it. Now, you can have an Uchenyj Sovet from the department level – on up. Institute, Faculty, University, Academy, Pearly Gates....Academic Senate, at least in the anglophone context, is more of an ADMINISTRATIVE body treating academic matters rather than actually a SCIENTIFIC body. That's at least my experience of dealing with the academic senates of several north american university in the quality of a professor. Academic senate may alocate research funds but not turn itself into a research seminar. It confers degrees ideed, but does not lend itself to being a scene of thesis defence. Put something vaguer (as I did) – to be on the safe side, for there's no complete semantic equivalent in English... at least not in this context. Ooofff, what a tirade!
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Michael, I actually closed this, precisely because I'd come to a similar conclusion (as I outlined in my note above). Believe it or not, this has been bothering me for weeks - and then as soon as I post something on Proz, I find the answer (embarrassing!). But I am VERY GLAD to have your confirmation of my thoughts. Many thanks.
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Note added at 22 mins (2009-02-24 17:26:13 GMT)
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You wrote that "my text refers repeatedly to the Учёный совет listening to presentations on scientific research and acting as a dissertation committee for PhDs". So, what else?
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