Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
«толстые» экономические обстоятельства
English translation:
subtle hint at serious economic difficulties
Added to glossary by
Clive Wilshin
Mar 2, 2009 14:09
15 yrs ago
Russian term
Translations that read like originals
Native in: English
Works in: Russian to English, French to English
«толстые» экономические обстоятельства
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это был тонкий намек «на толстые» экономические обстоятельства в России, что заставляет как инвесторов, так и государство отказываться от долгосрочных планов развития.
Please, I am not interested in your guesses from context -- I am perfectly able to guess something suitable myself, thank you very much .I'm looking for "proof", i.e. a specific reference to support your suggestion. Guesses are for schoolboys, not professionals!
Of course, the first point is that there is a play on words (tonkiy - tolstyye), which will no doubt be lost in translation.
Please, I am not interested in your guesses from context -- I am perfectly able to guess something suitable myself, thank you very much .I'm looking for "proof", i.e. a specific reference to support your suggestion. Guesses are for schoolboys, not professionals!
Of course, the first point is that there is a play on words (tonkiy - tolstyye), which will no doubt be lost in translation.
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I'm not sure this is what you are looking for, but I'll post an answer anyway.
Тонкий намек на толстые обстоятельства (разг. шутл.) - намек на что-н. серьезное.
http://ak.ak22.net/dict/?q=толстый
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Note added at 7 mins (2009-03-02 14:17:14 GMT)
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The reference is to:
С.И.Ожегов, Н.Ю.Шведова - Толковый словарь русского языка
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Note added at 18 mins (2009-03-02 14:27:22 GMT)
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OK, great.
Stasbetman's lingvo reference may also be of help.
Тонкий намек на толстые обстоятельства (разг. шутл.) - намек на что-н. серьезное.
http://ak.ak22.net/dict/?q=толстый
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Note added at 7 mins (2009-03-02 14:17:14 GMT)
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The reference is to:
С.И.Ожегов, Н.Ю.Шведова - Толковый словарь русского языка
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Note added at 18 mins (2009-03-02 14:27:22 GMT)
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OK, great.
Stasbetman's lingvo reference may also be of help.
Note from asker:
| Excellent, thank you!That is just the sort of helpful, authoritative answer I was hoping for. I'll leave the question open for 24 hours as Proz requires, but I doubt if anyone will come up with anything better! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Very many thanks, Mikhail. You provided what I really wanted: a reference to corroborate a translation. Some of the other suggestions are noble attempts to preserve the pun, though! Thanks to everyone."
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stasbetman
Ukraine
Ukraine
Native in Russian
Works in field
Ukraine
Native in: Russian 
, Ukrainian
Works in: English to Russian, German to Russian, Russian to English, and 11 more.
Related KudoZ points
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28
subtle reference to glaring economical circumstances
subtle reference to a glaring fact - в оригинале
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http://lingvo.yandex.ru/en?CardId=MQgQ BD0EOgQ4BDkE;L0A;4;0;...
Поскольку в фразу вставляется слово, то, думаю, fact можно изменить на соответствующее для "экономические" circumstances
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*economic circumstances так правильно((
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Note added at 16 мин (2009-03-02 14:25:37 GMT)
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"as the actress said to the bishop" аналог "тонкий намек на толстые обстоятельства", но, честно говоря, не знаю, куда воткнуть "экономические")
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Note added at 9 мин (2009-03-02 14:19:13 GMT)
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http://lingvo.yandex.ru/en?CardId=MQgQ BD0EOgQ4BDkE;L0A;4;0;...
Поскольку в фразу вставляется слово, то, думаю, fact можно изменить на соответствующее для "экономические" circumstances
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Note added at 11 мин (2009-03-02 14:20:47 GMT)
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*economic circumstances так правильно((
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Note added at 16 мин (2009-03-02 14:25:37 GMT)
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"as the actress said to the bishop" аналог "тонкий намек на толстые обстоятельства", но, честно говоря, не знаю, куда воткнуть "экономические")
39 mins
Alex Khanin
Germany
Germany
Native in Russian
Germany
Pushing the envelope of meaning
Native in: Russian 
Works in: German to Russian, English to Russian, Hebrew to Russian, and 18 more.
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11
a veiled hint at naked economic circumstances
an attempt to change the paradigm
3 hrs
Mikhail Korolev
Native in Russian
21 books translated
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Spanish to Russian, and 1 more.
elegant hint/reference to awkward economic circumstances
Я убрал свой первоначальный ответ "solid economic circumstances", поскольку пришел к выводу, что он совершенно не подходит. Ответ, который я предлагаю сейчас, я сначала добавил в качестве дополнения к предыдущему ответу.
One of the meanings of "awkward" is "difficult to use or deal with".
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/awkward
To preserve the pun I'd suggest
an elegant hint/reference to awkward economic circumstances.
One of the meanings of "awkward" is "difficult to use or deal with".
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/awkward
To preserve the pun I'd suggest
an elegant hint/reference to awkward economic circumstances.
5 hrs
Alexandra Taggart
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
&
English
Russian Federation
proficient translation
Native in: English , Russian
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian, English
Related KudoZ points
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31
a clear hint to the mudded situation in the economy
It is how I would put it.
Discussion
- намек на что-н. серьезное.
http://ak.ak22.net/dict/?q=толстый