Mar 14, 2010 22:36
14 yrs ago
Russian term

молитвы и проклятия

Russian to English Other Poetry & Literature
Мне необходимо найти вариант сочетания этих слов как антонимов. Если можно, приведите примеры в текстах (можно и поэтических).
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prayers and curses / blessings and curses

The first combo is more literal, the second shifts "prayers" to "blessings," but is more strictly a pair of antonyms.

For the first, there's Edgar in King Lear:

"And with this horrible object, from low farms,
Poor pelting villages, sheep-cotes, and mills,
Sometimes with lunatic bans, sometimes with prayers,
Enforce their charity. Poor Turlygod! poor Tom!"

(Where "bans" = "curses").

For "blessings / curses", this is from Tom Jones:

"...I will say boldly, that both religion and virtue have received more real discredit from hypocrites than the wittiest profligates or infidels could ever cast upon them: nay, farther, as these two, in their purity, are rightly called the bands of civil society, and are indeed the greatest of blessings; so when poisoned and corrupted with fraud, pretence, and affectation, they have become the worst of civil curses, and have enabled men to perpetrate the most cruel mischiefs to their own species."

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No Prayers Or Curses - Double-click to Play

- From John Steinbeck's, The Grapes of Wrath

Here's from John Steinbeck, "The Grapes of Wrath":

"And when that crop grew and was harvested no man had crumbled a hot clod in his fingers and let the earth sift past his fingertips. No man had touched the seed or lusted for the growth. Men ate what they had not raised, had no connection with the bread. The land bore under iron and under iron gradually died; for it was not loved or hated it had no ***prayers or curses***."

So, you might as well use that literal version. Though you haven't said what your context is.

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In your context, I think "prayers and curses" will likely work.

Drowning my sorrows in prayers, and curses...
Note from asker:
Context is absent. It is a poem I want to write. ) Drowning my sorrows in ...
Peer comment(s):

agree Olga Cartlidge
2 mins
Thanks, Olga.
agree Jack Doughty
22 mins
Thanks, Jack.
agree Alex Marshall : blessings and curses
1 hr
Thanks, Alex.
agree Simon Hollingsworth
2 hrs
Hi, Simon! Thank you.
agree Irene Fridman
2 hrs
Thanks, Irene.
agree Judith Hehir : blessing and curses—my thought precisely.
2 hrs
Thanks, Judith.
agree Elina Rokhkind : blessings and curses, definately
4 hrs
Thanks, Elina.
agree Alistair Gainey
5 hrs
Thanks, Alistair.
agree Alexandra Goldburt
6 hrs
Thanks, Alexandra.
agree Olga Arakelyan
7 hrs
Thanks, Olga.
agree Andrii Ishchenko
7 hrs
Thanks, Andriy.
agree Rinnel
9 hrs
Thanks, Jekaterina.
agree Natalia Volkova
10 hrs
Thanks, Natalia,
agree Natalia Mackevich
12 hrs
Thanks, Natalia.
agree Oleksiy Markunin
13 hrs
Thanks, Oleksiy.
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beseeching and sacriledge

Shakespeare used these words widely and they are not necessarily addressed to God.

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http://www.google.ru/search?q=Shakespeare quotes beseeching ...

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http://thesaurus.com/browse/Beseech

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http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/sa/sacrilege.html

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As "heresy" and "sacriledge" are normally recognized as identical, I suggest you to look at Shakespeare's usage of this word in order to get the best of its meaning.
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pleas and curses

Если в смысле "мольбы и проклятия".

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Where ancient people believed in gods and devils that listened to their pleas and curses--in this age, immortal entities hear us.
http://inoneeyeouttheother.blogspot.com/2009/12/put-your-thi...


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Pleas and curses from all over the world. http://planetmagazine.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/mission-fail-...


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A human locked up in solitary confinement can see the walls around them, touch their rough surfaces, hear their pleas and curses echoing around the cell. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34481185 - United States
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