11,000 words EN-DE, wow! Thread poster: Charlotte Blank
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I just received the following job offer:
"A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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Hello my name is Richard Accardi I have contract job offer
for you to translate an English words content worth eleven
thousand words
content file to German words. Please write back to my email
at "richardaccardi16@gmail.com" if you're interested. I hope
t... See more I just received the following job offer:
"A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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Hello my name is Richard Accardi I have contract job offer
for you to translate an English words content worth eleven
thousand words
content file to German words. Please write back to my email
at "richardaccardi16@gmail.com" if you're interested. I hope
to hear from
you soon
Richard
Author: Richard Accardi
[NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was not logged in when sending this message.]
Author's IP address: 149.22.90.234
Message type: Job-related
Being cautious about scammers I had a look at proz' directory and found out that the sender seems to have borrowed his name (with tiny changes) from a translator listed there. Moreover, the IP address is listed here: https://cleantalk.org/blacklists/149.22.90.234 and https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/149.22.90.234 so I think this is clearly a scam.
This time I "only" got an offer but maybe next would be an abuse of my name resp. profile.
What do you do in such a case? ▲ Collapse
| | | | Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 03:26
Member (2020)
French to Dutch
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| What's the problem? | Jun 28, 2024 |
The message states clearly that the sender is not a registered Proz.com user, so who cares about tiny differences with the name of another translator that is actually registrered here?
And also: never trust a gmail address. The one time that such an offer might be real, surely doesn't justify for the million times it's a scam.
If it's from a gmail address I simply don't respond. Ever.
EDIT: OK, I see now that there is also the possibility that the sender wa... See more The message states clearly that the sender is not a registered Proz.com user, so who cares about tiny differences with the name of another translator that is actually registrered here?
And also: never trust a gmail address. The one time that such an offer might be real, surely doesn't justify for the million times it's a scam.
If it's from a gmail address I simply don't respond. Ever.
EDIT: OK, I see now that there is also the possibility that the sender wasn't logged in. But that doesn't make it any less suspicious in my opinion.
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| | | | Michael Beijer 
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:26
Member
Dutch to English
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| The English is also terrible | Jun 28, 2024 |
The quality of the English is also highly suspect. Beware, definitely a scammer.
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Answering your question, every time I receive a suspicious email through Proz, following due diligence, I report it to the Translator Scam Alert Center at https://www.proz.com/about/risk-management-center.
P.S. It's a shame some people automatically regard Gmail addresses as coming from a scammer, but fortunately there are lots of people out there who don't react this way. ... See more Answering your question, every time I receive a suspicious email through Proz, following due diligence, I report it to the Translator Scam Alert Center at https://www.proz.com/about/risk-management-center.
P.S. It's a shame some people automatically regard Gmail addresses as coming from a scammer, but fortunately there are lots of people out there who don't react this way. I do have a Gmail account but I have never scammed a single soul and I don’t intend to…
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| @Maria Teresa | Jun 29, 2024 |
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:
Answering your question, every time a receive a suspicious email through Proz, following due diligence, I report it to the Translator Scam Alert Center at https://www.proz.com/about/risk-management-center.
P.S. It's a shame some people automatically regard Gmail addresses as coming from a scammer, but fortunately there are lots of people out there who don't react this way. I do have a Gmail account but I have never scammed a single soul and I don’t intend to…
In my opinion, respectable companies use their company domains for sending out emails. I know that in this case, it is an individual asking for a translation service. But why wouldn't s/he use an email provider which is not a gmail or yahoo? In the old days, gmail and yahoo were very convenient when checking mails outside your office, such as at internet cafes. But now, if you have an app on your smartphone for your email provider, you can check your mail anytime as long as you have your smartphone by your side. The advantage of using a free email address has diminished, and raises the chance of being accused of a scammer even though you are not. The person in question could have used his/her main email provider to avoid suspicions. I wouldn't deny having a second email address for backup reasons, but why not use one's primary email address?
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Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:
Answering your question, every time a receive a suspicious email through Proz, following due diligence, I report it to the Translator Scam Alert Center at https://www.proz.com/about/risk-management-center.
P.S. It's a shame some people automatically regard Gmail addresses as coming from a scammer, but fortunately there are lots of people out there who don't react this way. I do have a Gmail account but I have never scammed a single soul and I don’t intend to…
In my opinion, respectable companies use their company domains for sending out emails. I know that in this case, it is an individual asking for a translation service. But why wouldn't s/he use an email provider which is not a gmail or yahoo? In the old days, gmail and yahoo were very convenient when checking mails outside your office, such as at internet cafes. But now, if you have an app on your smartphone for your email provider, you can check your mail anytime as long as you have your smartphone by your side. The advantage of using a free email address has diminished, and raises the chance of being accused of a scammer even though you are not. The person in question could have used his/her main email provider to avoid suspicions. I wouldn't deny having a second email address for backup reasons, but why not use one's primary email address?
I had a paid email address in Belgium, but when I moved back to Portugal in 2015, I saw no reason to get a paid one as I was working exactly with the same client base. Of course, I have got some new clients in the meantime despite my Gmail account . I wonder if all scammers use free emails why people keep falling for it?
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| | | | | definitively a scam | Jun 29, 2024 |
I just got an e-mail with exactly the same job offer, the only difference being that ist was send by a certain Sheldon David. So yes, it is obviously a scam.
| | | | | Maybe because | Jun 29, 2024 |
Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:
Answering your question, every time a receive a suspicious email through Proz, following due diligence, I report it to the Translator Scam Alert Center at https://www.proz.com/about/risk-management-center.
P.S. It's a shame some people automatically regard Gmail addresses as coming from a scammer, but fortunately there are lots of people out there who don't react this way. I do have a Gmail account but I have never scammed a single soul and I don’t intend to…
In my opinion, respectable companies use their company domains for sending out emails. I know that in this case, it is an individual asking for a translation service. But why wouldn't s/he use an email provider which is not a gmail or yahoo? In the old days, gmail and yahoo were very convenient when checking mails outside your office, such as at internet cafes. But now, if you have an app on your smartphone for your email provider, you can check your mail anytime as long as you have your smartphone by your side. The advantage of using a free email address has diminished, and raises the chance of being accused of a scammer even though you are not. The person in question could have used his/her main email provider to avoid suspicions. I wouldn't deny having a second email address for backup reasons, but why not use one's primary email address?
I personally prefer Gmail to Protonmail because of the way I can group emails by person or group while I do not like Protonmail's way of grouping emails by person/groups. I have to pay according to the number of persons/groups I have on Protonmail which becomes very expensive eventually while I like Gmail's limitless grouping. I do praise Protonmail's customer care though.
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| Greatest Weakness of Gmail | Jun 30, 2024 |
Josephine Cassar wrote:
Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:
Answering your question, every time a receive a suspicious email through Proz, following due diligence, I report it to the Translator Scam Alert Center at https://www.proz.com/about/risk-management-center.
P.S. It's a shame some people automatically regard Gmail addresses as coming from a scammer, but fortunately there are lots of people out there who don't react this way. I do have a Gmail account but I have never scammed a single soul and I don’t intend to…
In my opinion, respectable companies use their company domains for sending out emails. I know that in this case, it is an individual asking for a translation service. But why wouldn't s/he use an email provider which is not a gmail or yahoo? In the old days, gmail and yahoo were very convenient when checking mails outside your office, such as at internet cafes. But now, if you have an app on your smartphone for your email provider, you can check your mail anytime as long as you have your smartphone by your side. The advantage of using a free email address has diminished, and raises the chance of being accused of a scammer even though you are not. The person in question could have used his/her main email provider to avoid suspicions. I wouldn't deny having a second email address for backup reasons, but why not use one's primary email address?
I personally prefer Gmail to Protonmail because of the way I can group emails by person or group while I do not like Protonmail's way of grouping emails by person/groups. I have to pay according to the number of persons/groups I have on Protonmail which becomes very expensive eventually while I like Gmail's limitless grouping. I do praise Protonmail's customer care though.
I'm not against people using Gmail, and I have an account myself which I hardly use.
However, the greatest weakness of Gmail is that scammers use this mail because you can make unlimited number of email addresses (correct me if I'm wrong) for free. Scammers wouldn't bother going for paid provider services, since we all know that they would not use the same email address for many years to scam people.
Is it just me that I notice a lot of scammers use Gmail addresses to scam people? For example, if you take a look at the BB records of some of the outsourcers, I notice a pop-up note from the site staff saying:
"A scammer is using the email address translationjobs.xyz (xyz being the company name).cn@gmail.com and other free email addresses to impersonate this company.
Only accept job offers from email addresses with the company's legitimate domain: @xyz.cn"
or something like "johnsmyth.wxy.de@gmail.com where Mr. John Smyth exists and works at a company called WXY.
[Edited at 2024-06-30 15:50 GMT]
| | | | Baran Keki
Türkiye
Local time: 05:26
Member
English to Turkish
| Don't you worry, they'll do one better than Gmail soon enough | Jun 30, 2024 |
I got this email earlier this month:
At first I thought the picture was fake like the email account. I then Googled the dude and found that he was who he claimed he was, and the picture was his.
I was nearly falling for it as seeing the picture of such a trust-inspiring, cuddly sweet old geezer somewhat drops your guard.
I found his website (and astonished to note afterwards that it was already stated in the email) and sent him a message about that email and he denied ever having contacted me.
Gmail accounts are one thing (and I sincerely believe that they'll soon stop using them based on the feedback they're getting from these forums and start using more legitimate sounding email accounts to con you), but using the photograph, name, personal website of a real person? What kind of sick c*nt does that?
If they're this much determined to scam you, they'll get a legitimate looking domain email very soon, believe you me. It's just a matter of time.
As they say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhjNS0-onm0
| | | | Zea_Mays
Italy
Local time: 03:26
English to German
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| Charlotte Blank
Germany
Local time: 03:26
Czech to German
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TOPIC STARTER
Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:
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Is it just me that I notice a lot of scammers use Gmail addresses to scam people? For example, if you take a look at the BB records of some of the outsourcers, I notice a pop-up note from the site staff saying:
"A scammer is using the email address translationjobs.xyz (xyz being the company name).cn@gmail.com and other free email addresses to impersonate this company.
Only accept job offers from email addresses with the company's legitimate domain: @xyz.cn" ...
This is exactly what I also read in the first posting (written in 2012!) on this forum and what caused me to be cautious:
"I just wanted to bring to your attention a recent form of scam in which real translators' CV information is copied and their names used with a different email address --usually in the form of {translator's_name}@{free_email_service_provider}-- to quote on jobs posted at ProZ.com as well as in other translation portals and freelancing websites. It has been noticed that, if the scammer is assigned the project for which s/he submitted a quote, the translation is either made with MT or else outsourced to real translators that are never paid for the project."
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Peter Motte
Belgium
Local time: 03:26
Member (2009)
English to Dutch
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| Doesn't mean a thing | Jul 3, 2024 |
Michael Beijer wrote:
The quality of the English is also highly suspect. Beware, definitely a scammer.
Bad English doesn't necessarily mean scammer.
It can ring a bill, but it's not a law of nature. You need other checks.
| | | | Liviu-Lee Roth
United States
Local time: 21:26
Romanian to English
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| Dear colleagues, | Jul 7, 2024 |
Please stop being so intrigued!
This scam is about 15 years old, recycled and sold on the darknet.
The scammers play the numbers. Once, I interpreted for a indicted scammer and he stated that if he sends 100 000 messages, there are 10-12 gullible people who would fall for it. If they get $2 000/scam, that is a reasonable income!
Gmail or not gmail is irrelevant! There are other telltales to figure it out as a scam.
Stay safe!
Lee
[Edited at 2024-... See more Please stop being so intrigued!
This scam is about 15 years old, recycled and sold on the darknet.
The scammers play the numbers. Once, I interpreted for a indicted scammer and he stated that if he sends 100 000 messages, there are 10-12 gullible people who would fall for it. If they get $2 000/scam, that is a reasonable income!
Gmail or not gmail is irrelevant! There are other telltales to figure it out as a scam.
Stay safe!
Lee
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