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In case you've missed it (survey on perceptions and experience of ProZ.com) Thread poster: Barbara Carrara
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Christopher Schröder wrote:
I wasn’t allowed to join the group because it’s run and moderated by Andrew Morris, who doesn’t tolerate dissenting opinions.
Presumably then Chris, the "feedback" you were referring to in an earlier post on this thread is uniformly positive.
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Found it! BTW: There are 70,000 members there.
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Peter Motte 
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I guess they just want to bring it all together, and to avoid only reacting to the loudest voices.
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ibz
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| A reaction would be nice | Feb 5 |
Peter Motte wrote:
I guess they just want to bring it all together, and to avoid only reacting to the loudest voices.
The problem is that they don't react to anything. If you have a look at all the threads where problems, bugs and proposals are discussed, you will see that I mean ...
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There’s also the Translation Mastermind group on Facebook, a paid thing which is now some kind of joint venture between ProZ and Andrew Morris. I think you pay to be part of an exclusively positive community of translators and get tips on how to be a successful translator from people who are so successful as translators that they have to branch out into being gurus and web designers and forum curators in order to make ends meet. Obviously I wouldn’t be welcome 😂😂
Both grou... See more There’s also the Translation Mastermind group on Facebook, a paid thing which is now some kind of joint venture between ProZ and Andrew Morris. I think you pay to be part of an exclusively positive community of translators and get tips on how to be a successful translator from people who are so successful as translators that they have to branch out into being gurus and web designers and forum curators in order to make ends meet. Obviously I wouldn’t be welcome 😂😂
Both groups may take a very different line on AI to what most on these forums do. Then again, they might not. Henry has been very quiet on the subject since the Zoom meeting but ProZ’s position is pretty clear from their actions, and from a commercial perspective it probably makes sense for them. ▲ Collapse
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Zea_Mays
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| AI is not an argument | Feb 5 |
AI is behind most of today's tools. So if you're not building THE ultimative AI translation tool, you better not brag about it too much.
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Christopher Schröder wrote:
I wasn’t allowed to join the group because it’s run and moderated by Andrew Morris, who doesn’t tolerate dissenting opinions.
Way out of date, my friend. I haven't been moderating that group for at least 18 months. Facts are such pesky little things, but they're kinda non-negotiable.
Where you ARE right is that healthy communities tend not to welcome sarcasm, vindictiveness and cynicism, finding such qualities rather toxic. As you so ably and consistently demonstrate.
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Christopher Schröder wrote:
There’s also the Translation Mastermind group on Facebook, a paid thing which is now some kind of joint venture between ProZ and Andrew Morris. I think you pay to be part of an exclusively positive community of translators and get tips on how to be a successful translator from people who are so successful as translators that they have to branch out into being gurus and web designers and forum curators in order to make ends meet. Obviously I wouldn’t be welcome 😂😂
Since I am (also) web designer, I beg to differ. I didn't have to branch out. I chose to. Because I could. And because my client base needed more of an integrated approach to corporate communications.
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Since I am (also) web designer, I beg to differ. I didn't have to branch out. I chose to. Because I could. And because my client base needed more of an integrated approach to corporate communications.
Besides, this idea of only ever being able to do one thing in life is a bit 1973. We're all plural now. This is the 21st century after all (for some of us).
Yours
A failed translator moonlighting as the coordinator of a global project and all because he couldn't find work. Apparently.
(PS This is fun!)
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| Definition of the word futile... | Feb 6 |
Barbara Carrara wrote:
ProZ have launched a survey called 'Understanding perceptions of ProZ.com' (!) in the New at ProZ.com section of the site,
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Z87HPHX
As if we haven't voiced our concerns - pardon me, perceptions - enough in these pages...
Well I participated in the survey anyway and told them my opinion. Hasn't changed since 2006.
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Andrew Morris wrote:
A failed translator moonlighting as the coordinator of a global project and all because he couldn't find work. Apparently.
(PS This is fun!)
You're on the Proz.com team I see. What significance does this survey really have?
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Andrew Morris wrote:
Christopher Schröder wrote:
I wasn’t allowed to join the group because it’s run and moderated by Andrew Morris, who doesn’t tolerate dissenting opinions.
Way out of date, my friend. I haven't been moderating that group for at least 18 months. Facts are such pesky little things, but they're kinda non-negotiable.
Where you ARE right is that healthy communities tend not to welcome sarcasm, vindictiveness and cynicism, finding such qualities rather toxic. As you so ably and consistently demonstrate.
... and as a longstanding ProZ member, I find these observations of a ProZ team member very inappropriate or even quite offensive, to say the least.
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| Survey (n/v): investigate the opinions or experience of (a group of people) by asking them questions | Feb 7 |
Bernhard Sulzer wrote:
You're on the Proz.com team I see. What significance does this survey really have?
Well, the same as any survey by any company. It's to explore/discover the current state of users' perceptions. Not really rocket science.
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| Speechless? Really? | Feb 7 |
Christel Zipfel wrote:
... and as a longstanding ProZ member, I find these observations of a ProZ team member very inappropriate or even quite offensive, to say the least.
Well as a longstanding member of the human race, I find your sense of inappropriateness and ability to take offence highly selective, which could in itself be considered offensive.
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ibz
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I find your answer (as well as your previous posts) rather condescending.
Since ProZ likes to quote surveys and statistics to support its own opinion and justify its own actions, the question of what purpose this serves is justified.
What's more, these surveys are interpreted quite liberally, to put it that way.
I like to remind you of the survey on the use of AI by translators. Henry still owes us precise information on these so-called statistics. As goes for other threads wh... See more I find your answer (as well as your previous posts) rather condescending.
Since ProZ likes to quote surveys and statistics to support its own opinion and justify its own actions, the question of what purpose this serves is justified.
What's more, these surveys are interpreted quite liberally, to put it that way.
I like to remind you of the survey on the use of AI by translators. Henry still owes us precise information on these so-called statistics. As goes for other threads where critical views are voiced, ProZ remains schtumm or the thread is changed to the restricted format (sorry: it's officially called "inclusive").
To quote yourself:
Andrew Morris wrote:
Where you ARE right is that healthy communities tend not to welcome sarcasm, vindictiveness and cynicism, finding such qualities rather toxic. As you so ably and consistently demonstrate.
Maybe you should read your posts again...
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