ChatGPT as a machine translation engine?
Thread poster: Shouguang Cao
Shouguang Cao
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China
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English to Chinese
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Dec 7, 2022

I added ChatGPT as a translation engine. For my language pair, it's pretty amazing.



I wonder how it performs compared with DeepL or Google.


HADEEL AYOUB
 
Ulrich Leininger
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Germany
Local time: 03:20
English to German
How did you do that? Dec 13, 2022

How are you interfacing with ChatGPT? How did you integrate it into your translation environment?

In my test of a longer bit of text, it made some serious mistakes that wouldn't occur in Google or DeepL. But, ChatGPT is not even a specialized translation tool and what it does is processing the whole text holistically, not just sentence by sentence. ChatGPT is clearly more intelligent by orders of magnitude - I can easily imagine it taking over the MT market if OpenAI puts some effor
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How are you interfacing with ChatGPT? How did you integrate it into your translation environment?

In my test of a longer bit of text, it made some serious mistakes that wouldn't occur in Google or DeepL. But, ChatGPT is not even a specialized translation tool and what it does is processing the whole text holistically, not just sentence by sentence. ChatGPT is clearly more intelligent by orders of magnitude - I can easily imagine it taking over the MT market if OpenAI puts some effort into it.
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Mike Tung
 
Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
API Dec 13, 2022

Ulrich Leininger wrote:

How are you interfacing with ChatGPT? How did you integrate it into your translation environment?



See: https://medium.com/geekculture/2022-how-to-use-chatgpt-api-with-curl-88830dec8a65


 
Ulrich Leininger
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Germany
Local time: 03:20
English to German
Thanks Dec 14, 2022

I asked ChatGPT if it has an API, it said no.

 
Shouguang Cao
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China
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It does Dec 14, 2022

Ulrich Leininger wrote:

I asked ChatGPT if it has an API, it said no.


ChatGPT doesn't know it has an API.

Make an API request with

Translate into German: Hello world

And then extract the German translation from its reply.


 
Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)
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Test run Jun 25, 2024

That's an interesting development! It's great to hear that ChatGPT is performing well as a translation engine for your language pair. Since language models like ChatGPT are trained on vast amounts of text data, they can potentially capture nuances and context that traditional translation engines might miss.
However, it's difficult to make a definitive comparison with DeepL or Google Translate without specific tests or benchmarks. Each system has its strengths and may perform differently de
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That's an interesting development! It's great to hear that ChatGPT is performing well as a translation engine for your language pair. Since language models like ChatGPT are trained on vast amounts of text data, they can potentially capture nuances and context that traditional translation engines might miss.
However, it's difficult to make a definitive comparison with DeepL or Google Translate without specific tests or benchmarks. Each system has its strengths and may perform differently depending on the language pair, content type, and context.
A few points to consider:

Consistency: Traditional translation engines like DeepL and Google Translate might be more consistent across different types of text.
Specialized vocabulary: ChatGPT's performance might vary when dealing with highly technical or specialized content.
Context understanding: ChatGPT might excel in understanding broader context and producing more natural-sounding translations in some cases.
Updates and improvements: DeepL and Google are constantly updating their systems, so their performance may have improved since the last time you compared them.

If you're curious about how ChatGPT compares to DeepL or Google Translate, you might consider running some tests with various types of text in your language pair. This could give you a more accurate picture of each system's strengths and weaknesses for your specific needs.
Would you like to share more about your experience or the types of content you're translating? That could help in providing more specific insights.
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Cilian O'Tuama
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Germany
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@Soonthon Jun 25, 2024

How much faith can you have in a bot? See below.

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My Q:
Do either (or perhaps both) of the words "gyros" and gyrus" contain the letter O? If so, as which letter does it appear?

CGPT's answer:

Neither the word "gyros" nor the word "gyrus" contains the letter "O."

"Gyros" is spelled G-Y-R-O-S.
"Gyrus" is spelled G-Y-R-U-S.
In "gyros," the letter "O" appears as the fourth letter.
In "gyrus," there is no "O.
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How much faith can you have in a bot? See below.

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My Q:
Do either (or perhaps both) of the words "gyros" and gyrus" contain the letter O? If so, as which letter does it appear?

CGPT's answer:

Neither the word "gyros" nor the word "gyrus" contains the letter "O."

"Gyros" is spelled G-Y-R-O-S.
"Gyrus" is spelled G-Y-R-U-S.
In "gyros," the letter "O" appears as the fourth letter.
In "gyrus," there is no "O."

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My exact same Q a few weeks earlier produced:

Bot's answer:

Yes, both "gyros" and "gyrus" contain the letter O.

In "gyros," the letter O appears as the fourth letter in the word.
In "gyrus," the letter O does not appear in the word.

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Artificial ignorance.
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Barbara Carrara
ibz
Jennifer Levey
Maria Laura Curzi
 
ibz
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English to German
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@Soonthon Jun 25, 2024

18 (AI generated) forum posts within 2 hours! What are you trying to accomplish?

Michele Fauble
Barbara Carrara
Jennifer Levey
Cilian O'Tuama
Jorge Payan
 
Denis Fesik
Denis Fesik
Local time: 05:20
English to Russian
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What I find amazing Jun 25, 2024

Is that, often as not, people claiming to translate into Asian languages (like Chinese) from English claim that machine translations are amazing, superb, and almost ready to replace humans. All (and I repeat: all) translations from said languages into English that happen to come my way have obvious signs of having been obtained using a machine (without any human intereference), and they're all garbage. I've been working with English enough to tell with certaint... See more
Is that, often as not, people claiming to translate into Asian languages (like Chinese) from English claim that machine translations are amazing, superb, and almost ready to replace humans. All (and I repeat: all) translations from said languages into English that happen to come my way have obvious signs of having been obtained using a machine (without any human intereference), and they're all garbage. I've been working with English enough to tell with certainty if a translation into English is garbage. The translation direction seems to fully explain the situation. Chinese to English = garbage. English to Chinese = perfection. Yet another way to convince me that all I know about East-Asian languages (especially those using logosyllabic writing) is nothing

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Chris Says Bye
 
Cilian O'Tuama
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Germany
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German to English
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What's the actual point of this debate? Jun 27, 2024

What is being discussed?

Excuse my ignorance.
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Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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Spain
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Member (2005)
English to Spanish
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Confidentiality issues Nov 27, 2024

Just for those who are not thinking of this: anything you tell ChatGPT, ChatGPT might/will keep! Never ever feed anything to ChatGPT unless you have your client's approval, or you risk your clients' materials being offered to third people...

Maria Laura Curzi
Rachel Waddington
 
Jeff Whittaker
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United States
Local time: 21:20
Spanish to English
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The problem is... Nov 27, 2024

that ChatGPT sometimes makes up translations, phrases and collocations that do not exist.

Maria Laura Curzi
 


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