Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Realität eigener Gesetzlichkeit
English translation:
[should respond to the] inherent laws/properties of its own medium
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Helen Shiner
Apr 16, 2009 19:22
15 yrs ago
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German term
Realität eigener Gesetzlichkeit
German to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
This is from a monograph about an Austrian artist; the phrase in question appears within a section where he is discussing his techniques & methods. I'm experiencing a little brainblock in coming up with a nice artsy way of putting the sentence and any suggestions would be gladly appreciated.
Here's the context it appears within:
"Ein Bild soll stets Realität eigener Gesetzlichkeit sein. Nicht das real Dargestellte ist wichtig, sondern die ,Komposition’, das heißt die Gegenüberstellung von Flächen, Linien und Farben."
Thank you!
Here's the context it appears within:
"Ein Bild soll stets Realität eigener Gesetzlichkeit sein. Nicht das real Dargestellte ist wichtig, sondern die ,Komposition’, das heißt die Gegenüberstellung von Flächen, Linien und Farben."
Thank you!
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Apr 17, 2009 08:29: Helen Shiner Created KOG entry
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[should respond to the] inherent laws/properties of its own medium
For my explanation, please see the discussion area.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2009-04-17 08:09:56 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for the points, Julie - glad to help.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2009-04-17 08:09:56 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for the points, Julie - glad to help.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Hi Helen, thank you so much for your helpful suggestion; this works perfectly within the context of my translation. Have a wonderful day!
Best,
Julie"
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a reality in its own right
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Helen Shiner
: Sorry to disagree, but this really is not what is meant.
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Thank you for enlightening me - good input in your answer.
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agree |
Stephen Reader
: Agree but NB with the qualification following, 'i.e. a consequence/product of / one that arises out of... '
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Yes, you are right.
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reality of its own rule(s)
"Ein Bild soll stets Realität eigener Gesetzlichkeit sein. Nicht das real Dargestellte ist wichtig, sondern die ,Komposition’, das heißt die Gegenüberstellung von Flächen, Linien und Farben."
A portait/painting should always express/follow (the reality) of its own rule(s).
Important is not what is actually shown but the 'composition', i.e. the juxtaposition of surfaces, lines, and colors.
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Note added at 26 mins (2009-04-16 19:49:09 GMT)
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or:
...should express its own reality.
corr.: a portrait/painting should always express/follow (the reality of) its own rule(s).
A portait/painting should always express/follow (the reality) of its own rule(s).
Important is not what is actually shown but the 'composition', i.e. the juxtaposition of surfaces, lines, and colors.
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Note added at 26 mins (2009-04-16 19:49:09 GMT)
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or:
...should express its own reality.
corr.: a portrait/painting should always express/follow (the reality of) its own rule(s).
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Helen Shiner
: Agree that we have to move away from 'to be' in order to make sense of this, but I think we also have to replace 'reality' with some reference to inherent properties.
55 mins
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thanks for the discussion.
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agree |
Stephen Reader
: Rephrase, & why not 'be' - ... should always be a reality that arises /a reality generated out of its own laws.
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thank you, Stephen!
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agree |
Inge Meinzer
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vielen Dank, Inge!
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'(should) manifest its own inherent logic'
Following Hellen's suggestions, this might be an alternative...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Stephen Reader
: Again, with the author's own proviso/qualific'n, as, without, we could be talking Surrealism
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