Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dec 27, 2007 09:05
16 yrs ago
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German term
persistieren
German to English
Tech/Engineering
SAP
I stumbled upon this word in a Betriebhandbuch.
The Text:
Da die DWH Systeme die Daten aus der DIDB zum Monatsende in Ihren Systemen persistieren, muss insbesondere kurz vor dem Monatsende verstärkt auf die Qualität der Daten geachtet werden.
what i noticed- persistieren 'aus' der DIDB 'in' Ihren Systemen
my query:
The meaning of persistieren in the above sentence has nothing to do with the English 'to persist'. Or am i mistaken?
Is there an English equivalent to this verb in this context?
The Text:
Da die DWH Systeme die Daten aus der DIDB zum Monatsende in Ihren Systemen persistieren, muss insbesondere kurz vor dem Monatsende verstärkt auf die Qualität der Daten geachtet werden.
what i noticed- persistieren 'aus' der DIDB 'in' Ihren Systemen
my query:
The meaning of persistieren in the above sentence has nothing to do with the English 'to persist'. Or am i mistaken?
Is there an English equivalent to this verb in this context?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +5 | comment |
Ken Cox
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| 3 +1 | to persist |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
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| 5 -1 | persist |
Vittorio Ferretti
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Proposed translations
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'persistieren' (which is anyhow an invention in German) is being used transitively here, which is not possible in (conventional) English.
I'd suggest something like 'as the DWH systems store the data from xxxx in your system in persistent form, ...'
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-27 13:21:39 GMT)
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If this is an accounting system or the data is accounting data, what is probably meant is that the stored data cannot be modified.
I'd suggest something like 'as the DWH systems store the data from xxxx in your system in persistent form, ...'
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-27 13:21:39 GMT)
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If this is an accounting system or the data is accounting data, what is probably meant is that the stored data cannot be modified.
Peer comment(s):
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Erik Brinkhof
5 mins
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| agree |
Steffen Walter
: Could also mean "to save/store permanently".
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| agree |
Susan Zimmer
: agree with Steffen, would have been my suggestion
13 mins
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| agree |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: That's what I basically said; the IT term is "to persist" or "to save/store permanently".
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| agree |
Vanessa Schlueter
17 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "hey Ken..very good solution..thank you!"
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3 mins
to persist
"persistieren" is a sometimes poor translation from the English "to persist", but in English it should be the correct technical term.
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Note added at 4 mins (2007-12-27 09:10:26 GMT)
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For references:
Google "persist" and "data"!
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Note added at 4 mins (2007-12-27 09:10:26 GMT)
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For references:
Google "persist" and "data"!
Peer comment(s):
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Andrej
: Im internen SAP-Woerterbuch gibt es leider keine Uebersetzung zu "persistieren" fuers Englische, aber jede Menge Ableitungen wie persistent Data, persistent class usw. Also "konstant machen".
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earthreptile
: I work it IT and we talk about "data persisting" or "the persistence of data"
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Erik Brinkhof
: This is about "die Systeme persistieren die Daten aus der DIDB in Ihren Systemen" - not about the persistence of data. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_(computer_science)
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Of course, it is about the persistance of data! You should read the German sentence again. It says "die *Daten* aus der DIDB zum Monatsende in Ihren Systemen *persistieren*."
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Vittorio Ferretti
Native in German
Author of renowned dictionary
Native in: German 
, Italian 
Works in: English to German, Italian to German, Spanish to German, and 1 more.
persist
Duden: for "continue to exist"
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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-12-27 11:17:42 GMT)
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the transitiv usage of "persistieren" is not considered in the Duden; however one can understand trhat the author means: "....make the data persist ....
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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-12-27 11:17:42 GMT)
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the transitiv usage of "persistieren" is not considered in the Duden; however one can understand trhat the author means: "....make the data persist ....
Peer comment(s):
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Erik Brinkhof
: Asker's context is not about "continue to exist"
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as derivations of the Latin word "persistere" persist in Italian, Spanish, Portuguese etc. maybe I have another understanding of "persistieren"
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Discussion
Die DWH Systeme persistieren die Daten aus der DIDB in Ihren Systemen.
to me it sounds like:
The DWH systems .... (persistieren) the data from DIDB into its system.
Any comments on prepositions 'aus' and 'in' ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_(computer_science)
Good luck!