Why haven't I received more jobs for all those quotes I've submitted where I was ranked 1st?
Thread poster: Fredrik Pettersson
Fredrik Pettersson
Fredrik Pettersson  Identity Verified
Hong Kong
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Jul 21, 2024

When I am checking my previous quotes I have submitted the past few years, I find it a bit peculiar that for most of those quotes, I have been ranked 1st but still no action by the job advertiser has been taken. Some examples of quotes with no action taken by the job advertiser (or where my quote was declined), starting with the latest on 18th July three days ago:

18/7 1st/5 (I am waiting for the final decision, seems like I have a good chance of getting this project)
29/3 1st
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When I am checking my previous quotes I have submitted the past few years, I find it a bit peculiar that for most of those quotes, I have been ranked 1st but still no action by the job advertiser has been taken. Some examples of quotes with no action taken by the job advertiser (or where my quote was declined), starting with the latest on 18th July three days ago:

18/7 1st/5 (I am waiting for the final decision, seems like I have a good chance of getting this project)
29/3 1st/13
22/3 1st/8 (I had this project confirmed and completed it)
6/2 Declined
28/9 2023 1st/9
26/10 2022 2nd/9
22/9 2022 1st/10
22/9 2022 1st/18
21/8 2022 Declined
11/4 2022 1st/6
17/3 2022 1st/10

What could the reasons be that I haven't received more jobs among those offered where I was ranked as 1st?
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Josephine Cassar
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But Jul 21, 2024

But ranked first what? What are/were you ranked first for? Can you explain a little bit more? In subject are in Kudoz points or what? Were you the first to submit a quote? There are many reasons why 1 quote will be accepted over another - price, wording, experience to name just a few.

 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Josephine Jul 21, 2024

If you go to Jobs & Directories, More, My quotes, you will find out what Fredrik is talking about, but as you say a client’s choice depends on many other factors, namely price!

P.S. I discovered this by chance when I was looking for something completely different...


Zea_Mays
Stanislaw Czech, MCIL CL
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Fredrik Jul 21, 2024

I have exactly the same experience as you, I have been ranked in 1st place quite often (I don’t know what this means: have I been the first person to quote?!), in two cases my offer was declined, but for the remaining I was only contacted once (curiously enough in this case I was ranked 2nd). I always presumed that not being chosen was a question of price…

Zea_Mays
Stanislaw Czech, MCIL CL
 
Fredrik Pettersson
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Ranked 1st by the job advertiser? Jul 21, 2024

I have always presumed that the ordinals are assigned by the job advertiser. In other words, the job advertiser begins with sorting the incoming quotes, even if it is roughly. I don't know, it maybe sounds farfetched because why would every single job advertiser do it (I always get those ordinals displayed)? And it seems those ordinals are assigned quickly, if not immediately - maybe automatically.

It doesn't hold that the ordinals would indicate which job application was sent in wh
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I have always presumed that the ordinals are assigned by the job advertiser. In other words, the job advertiser begins with sorting the incoming quotes, even if it is roughly. I don't know, it maybe sounds farfetched because why would every single job advertiser do it (I always get those ordinals displayed)? And it seems those ordinals are assigned quickly, if not immediately - maybe automatically.

It doesn't hold that the ordinals would indicate which job application was sent in which order in time to the job advertiser, because I've been assigned the ordinal 1st even when there have been other quotes made before me.

Anyway, it seems they don't indicate anything of relevance as to my chances of being awarded the project or not.
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Stepan Konev
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Ranking explained Jul 21, 2024

Try this: https://www.proz.com/faq/4442#4442
See point 5, plus search for "rank" across the text to find more information about ranking.


 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Portugal
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@Stepan Jul 21, 2024

We haven’t been talking about the ranking in the directory, but about “Where does my quote rank?” and if this rank has any impact whatsoever on the outsourcer’s choice. For instance (my quotes):

15/7 2nd/7 (I got this job)
1/07 1st/19 (no reaction)
1/07 1st/33 (no reaction)
26/06 2nd/69 (no reaction)
18/06 6th/159 (no reaction)
11/06 2nd/8(no reaction)
07/06 2nd/27 (no reaction)
30/05 2nd/78 (no reaction)
22/05 3rd/23 (no react
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We haven’t been talking about the ranking in the directory, but about “Where does my quote rank?” and if this rank has any impact whatsoever on the outsourcer’s choice. For instance (my quotes):

15/7 2nd/7 (I got this job)
1/07 1st/19 (no reaction)
1/07 1st/33 (no reaction)
26/06 2nd/69 (no reaction)
18/06 6th/159 (no reaction)
11/06 2nd/8(no reaction)
07/06 2nd/27 (no reaction)
30/05 2nd/78 (no reaction)
22/05 3rd/23 (no reaction)
10/5 2nd/47 (no reaction)
07/05 2nd/77 (no reaction)
(…)
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Philippe Etienne
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Spain
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A Plus feature Jul 22, 2024

In my "My quotes" page, the "Where does my quote rank?" column states "Quote ranking is available to ProZ.com members with a Plus subscription."

What if AI ranked quotes automatically?

Philippe


 


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