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matt robinson 
Spain
Local time: 04:32
Member (2010)
Spanish to English
Tom in London wrote:
Sir Tristram, violer d’amores, fr’over the short sea, had passencore rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor had topsawyer’s rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse to Laurens County’s gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to tauftauf thuartpeatrick not yet, though venissoon after, had a kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, though all’s fair in vanessy, were sosie sesthers wroth with twone nathandjoe. Rot a peck of pa’s malt had Jhem or Shen brewed by arclight and rory end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface.....
Chepooka or not, words nonetheless.
| | | | Zorana B.
France
Local time: 04:32
English to French
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| onomatopoeia | Aug 18, 2023 |
Thomas T. Frost wrote:
Baran Keki wrote:
powwow?
Meowwow? My cat thinks it's a word. Can feline words puss-ibly count as words? [Edited at 2023-08-17 12:13 GMT]
may I say that since it's considered an onomatopoeia..It is definitely the coolest word!
| | | | Kay Denney
France
Local time: 04:32
French to English
Zorana B. wrote:
Thomas T. Frost wrote:
Baran Keki wrote:
powwow?
Meowwow? My cat thinks it's a word. Can feline words puss-ibly count as words? [Edited at 2023-08-17 12:13 GMT]
may I say that since it's considered an onomatopoeia..It is definitely the coolest word!
And it's far from useless because cats invest their miaows with a lot of meaning!
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Michele Fauble wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Lingua 5B wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]
...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.
Who says?
You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm.
A word needs to have a meaning. So what you wrote does not qualify.
And who …
...defines the meaning?
A community of speakers.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 18:13 GMT]
Coming back to my question and please feel free to teach me again:
Does "òpidubvè97r" then represent a word, according to your above statement:
And who …
...defines the meaning?
A community of speakers.
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Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Local time: 04:32
Member (2009)
English to Croatian
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| No it doesn’t | Aug 21, 2023 |
If you are able to define its meaning, in clear terms, then it does.
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Lingua 5B wrote:
If you are able to define its meaning, in clear terms, then it does.
...but then we both agree on my statement you quoted under your headline "Not really" on page 1 and you hereby openly disagree with Tom?
| | | | WolfgangS
France
Local time: 04:32
Member (2007)
English to German
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Matthias Brombach wrote:
Michele Fauble wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Lingua 5B wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]
...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.
Who says?
You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm.
A word needs to have a meaning. So what you wrote does not qualify.
And who …
...defines the meaning?
A community of speakers.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 18:13 GMT]
Coming back to my question and please feel free to teach me again:
Does "òpidubvè97r" then represent a word, according to your above statement:
And who …
...defines the meaning?
A community of speakers.
a word is defined as follows:
A single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing, used with others (or sometimes alone) to form a sentence and typically shown with a space on either side when written or printed
then it's not a word but an agglutination of letters and figures. A word is a "meaningful" element of "speech" (can you pronounce that element Tom calls a word?). But maybe in Klingonian, Dothraki or Sindarin it has a meaning, who knows ...
| | | | | Not a useless word | Aug 21, 2023 |
finnword1 wrote:
One of the most useless words in the English language is "whatsoever". (None whatsoever is already none). Any other nominations for the list?
It may not have a meaning, but I disagree that it is useless as it's used for emphasis. "There is no reason whatsoever" portrays a kind of seething fury that is missing from "there is no reason", which is a bland statement of fact. Going by your logic, words like "really" and "truly" would also be useless.
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