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Poll: How many outsourcers have asked you to sign their NDA and then sent no work whatsoever?
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Thayenga
Thayenga  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 17:15
Member (2009)
English to German
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About 20% Mar 27, 2022

Not only did agencies asked me to sign an NDA, but also some end customers.

Line Hartløw Voss
Mr Tariq
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 16:15
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
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Other (I have no idea what the percentage is...) Mar 27, 2022

I am afraid I have lost count of all the NDAs I have signed over the years. Needless to say, for a lot of them the "big project" never materialized. I even work with an agency that decided to update their NDA every year. Let’s hope that this “trend” doesn’t catch on. In my book the more red tape there is, the less likely you will get work. On the other hand, I have been working regularly with a few long-standing customers without signing a single NDA...

Line Hartløw Voss
Kevin Fulton
Ann Marie Bohan
Aline Amorim
Laurent Di Raimondo
Serhan Elmacıoğlu
Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
 
Michael Newton
Michael Newton  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 11:15
Japanese to English
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Sign NDA Mar 27, 2022

How many? Many, far too many. Recently I passed a translation test for a company after which I had to sign an NDA, fill out a wire transfer payment form and send them a copy of my bank statement. The last was a bit weird but it is a company in Ireland that handles international transactions. Tomorrow I will ask them point blank if they are going to give me an business.

Tom in London
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
James Brooks
 
Edward Potter
Edward Potter  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 17:15
Member (2003)
Spanish to English
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Not sure Mar 27, 2022

It feels like 81%+ though.

You can kind of feel it when a company is coming with a serious offer. They tell you to go through their rigamarole, you roll your eyes and do it, and the work starts to come.


Ventnai
Robert Forstag
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
 
Laurent Di Raimondo
Laurent Di Raimondo  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 17:15
English to French
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I couldn't have put it better! Mar 27, 2022

Teresa Borges wrote:

In my book the more red tape there is, the less likely you will get work. On the other hand, I have been working regularly with a few long-standing customers without signing a single NDA...


I couldn't have put it better!


Helena Chavarria
Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
Natalia Pedrosa
Barbara Carrara
neilmac
Ventnai
Tom in London
 
Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
Muriel Vasconcellos (X)  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 08:15
Spanish to English
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Very few Mar 27, 2022

Certainly well under 20%. I can't remember when I last signed an NDA. In fact, I only remember doing it when I already knew that I was going to get the job.

Alexandra Speirs
 
Philip Lees
Philip Lees  Identity Verified
Greece
Local time: 18:15
Greek to English
Inclusive interval Mar 28, 2022

Up to 20%, assuming that it's an inclusive interval, i.e. it includes zero at the bottom end.

For a good many years now I've made it clear to agencies that I won't look at an NDA or any of their other bumf unless there is a specific job on the table. Nor will I waste my time doing their data entry for them by entering my details into their translator database.


Barbara Carrara
Chris Says Bye
Baran Keki
Tom in London
Kay Denney
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
 
neilmac
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 17:15
Spanish to English
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Other - N/A Mar 28, 2022

Since I hardly ever work with agencies nowadays, only one or two, and only occasionally, I don't recall the last time I had to sign an NDA, maybe once or twice over the past twenty years or so. Thank goodness for direct clients!

Pascale van Kempen-Herlant
 
Michael Harris
Michael Harris  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 17:15
Member (2006)
German to English
Option Mar 28, 2022

No idea...

Cant keep a track of all the things we have done in life.


Liena Vijupe
Zamira B.
Kay Denney
expressisverbis
A. Ibrahim
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Sebastian Witte
 
Baran Keki
Baran Keki  Identity Verified
Türkiye
Local time: 19:15
Member
English to Turkish
Ironically Mar 28, 2022

Once or twice I remember seeing environmentally-conscious, 'help save forests' like messages in the email signatures of those agencies that require you to print out, sign and scan, and then discard 20 odd pages of 'vendor onboarding documents' that never lead to any jobs.

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Georgi Kovachev
expressisverbis
 
Tom in London
Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:15
Member (2008)
Italian to English
10 Mar 28, 2022

About 10.

I don't do this any more.


 
Iria Pita
Iria Pita  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 17:15
Member (2021)
English to Spanish
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Way too many Mar 28, 2022

Over the past few years, I signed NDAs for several translation agencies and never got any translation projects from them. Being a newbie feels great thinking that someone may give you an opportunity and then, you get nothing.

Tom in London
neilmac
Vinícius Rodrigues
A. Ibrahim
Fernanda Silva
 
Robert Forstag
Robert Forstag  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 11:15
Spanish to English
+ ...
Too often Mar 28, 2022

As others have said before, I don't know, and don't track such things, but it has happened all too often.

One common scenario:
Agency contacts me with potential job offer, but requires signing of NDA for me to look at source document. I sign, look at the source document, propose a fee, and - then it turns out (according to the agency) the end client has either chosen not to move forward or to use the services of another agency.

But the nice PM usually suga
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As others have said before, I don't know, and don't track such things, but it has happened all too often.

One common scenario:
Agency contacts me with potential job offer, but requires signing of NDA for me to look at source document. I sign, look at the source document, propose a fee, and - then it turns out (according to the agency) the end client has either chosen not to move forward or to use the services of another agency.

But the nice PM usually sugarcoats the bad news by pointing out that now that they have my NDA on file, they will be contacting me in the future with more job offers (something that usually does not happen).

So irritating.
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Tom in London
Philip Lees
Vinícius Rodrigues
Helena Mas Boillat
A. Ibrahim
James Brooks
 
Kay Denney
Kay Denney  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 17:15
French to English
. Mar 28, 2022

Like Philip, I clicked on "up to 20%" thinking that would surely include zero.
I'm really not sure I ever signed any NDAs. There was an agency I reached out to because I had spoken with them before, which was a good match for the kind of work I do, who sent me one, but I don't think I ever signed it. I believe there were a couple of clauses that looked a bit dodgy, the kind of clause that has been discussed here, where they have the right to come and check on your laptop that you don't wor
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Like Philip, I clicked on "up to 20%" thinking that would surely include zero.
I'm really not sure I ever signed any NDAs. There was an agency I reached out to because I had spoken with them before, which was a good match for the kind of work I do, who sent me one, but I don't think I ever signed it. I believe there were a couple of clauses that looked a bit dodgy, the kind of clause that has been discussed here, where they have the right to come and check on your laptop that you don't work for their clients directly. I am still in their database though, because someone called me with a job once. I refused because it was a weekend emergency and I had quite a bit planned for the weekend and wasn't going to sacrifice those plans for an unknown quantity.
I may have signed one for an agency I was already working with, and they continued to give me work after I signed, which is not really what this poll is about.
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